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Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by bigd »

iaskwhy wrote: post #29
girvo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a team above one another doesn't stop Rugby League in Australia from doing that[0], so that I'll disagree with. The rest of it, I don't know enough about football to have much of an opinion :) [0] http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hjHYB-oUH90/0.jpg

I thought it was a funny comment because there's always one team before the other, either above or first on a line. That's why there's a raffle for games which are not played at either teams' home. For example, next Wednesday it's Netherlands v Argentina and not the inverse.

A left right organization also give you clue of which side of the field the teams are playing.

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by surreal »

bigd wrote: post #31
iaskwhy wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it was a funny comment because there's always one team before the other, either above or first on a line. That's why there's a raffle for games which are not played at either teams' home. For example, next Wednesday it's Netherlands v Argentina and not the inverse.

A left right organization also give you clue of which side of the field the teams are playing.

Nope, it tells you which team is playing at its home stadium (or in the case of games played on neutral ground, the team that is designated the 'home' team by e.g. a raffle).

At half time the teams swap sides, the order of teams on screen doesn't

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by BasDirks »

"We love a clear time indication, and Helvetica seemed to be the clearest typeface for our display."

No, I highly doubt you did any research. Helvetica numerals don't work well here, especially with sloppy kerning.

"We thought it could be interesting to add some useful informations without distracting you from watching your game."

Like the glitchy animation for showing/hiding scores?

"It’s not just a trend: infographics, pie charts and diagrams participate in your daily inspiration."

"participate in your daily inspiration" sounds terribly awkward.

Very hard to take this serious.

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by teamhappy »

Let me start by saying that I really like the clean look. I'm a fan of flat design. From a design point of view (visually encoding information that is) the layout doesn't make a lot of sense though. Putting one team above the other (as ntaso pointed out) isn't a good idea. Not only does it imply ranking, it also takes away the opportunity to show which team plays on which side and can't handle double-digit scores all that well. "FRA 7 : 11 BRA" works a lot better. I can see why they did it though. If the teams weren't stacked there wouldn't have been any room for the pretty clock (which I like a lot). But that's not how design is supposed to work. The indicators next to the team's names are completely unnecessary. Which score belongs to which team seems fairly obvious.

The info graphics part seems a bit over the top as well. A (animated?) clock icon, the time itself and the subtitle "Local Time" seems a bit redundant. Surely the unit explains what the information is supposed to be. "96,000 people" doesn't need "Attendance" added to it. Let alone the huge icon. The local temperature doesn't have a subtitle and I figured out what it is anyway. And again, the indicators ...

The "POSSESSION" (not sure why this one is all caps) graphic I like. Kind of. Three indicators - really?. The one in the middle makes perfect sense but the other two? The shirts are unnecessary as well. You already have the colours inside the graphic, put the names of the teams in there. The rounded corners don't fit the visual language either; make them square like all the others.

The "Formation screen" is okay I guess.

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by goldenkey »

nikcub wrote: post #9

They left out the sponsors and the FIFA logo, which makes it a non-starter. Anybody following the EPL would know that they have their on-screen graphics done very well, especially starting last season. Minimalist but informative (and with sponsors!): http://images.mukki.org/11-08/21/tv_shows/EPL.2011.08.20.Eve... But what football really needs is a way to scratch below the surface and expose casual fans to the tactic…

The image redirects to a scam casino. What scum.

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by masaladosa »

The clock is actually harder to read this way. I want to glance and know what time we're on. By presenting the time in an unconventional way, you're making it difficult for me to do that. It also doesn't offer a way to distinguish between extra time and stoppage time.

When a player is booked, injured, substituted, etc I prefer to see what's, you know, happening. If you want to help me do that, you shouldn't obstruct my view with a giant bezel containing an icon and some text. I will go further and say that the icons are rather vague, especially in the example given. A football (I mistook it for a wheel at first) and a name? Thanks television, that cleared things up!

A yellow card icon should simply be yellow. Two cards as an analogy to a red card isn't a good one, as red cards can be given without a yellow one being given prior. I'm assuming the sniper's visor is meant to indicate penalties, it's a little disturbing to be honest.

These and other mistakes, mentioned in other comments, could've been easily avoided with a little domain knowledge. Once again, it's form over function.

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by masaladosa »

teamhappy wrote: post #34

Let me start by saying that I really like the clean look. I'm a fan of flat design. From a design point of view (visually encoding information that is) the layout doesn't make a lot of sense though. Putting one team above the other (as ntaso pointed out) isn't a good idea. Not only does it imply ranking, it also takes away the opportunity to show which team plays on which side and can't handle double-digit scores all…

The teams switch side at the beginning of the second half. The team mentioned first is the "host", the team mentioned last the "guest". Who is host and who is guest is decided by a draw in tournaments.

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by teamhappy »

masaladosa wrote: post #37
teamhappy wrote: post #34

Let me start by saying that I really like the clean look. I'm a fan of flat design. From a design point of view (visually encoding information that is) the layout doesn't make a lot of sense though. Putting one team above the other (as ntaso pointed out) isn't a good idea. Not only does it imply ranking, it also takes away the opportunity to show which team plays on which side and can't handle double-digit scores all…

The teams switch side at the beginning of the second half. The team mentioned first is the "host", the team mentioned last the "guest". Who is host and who is guest is decided by a draw in tournaments.

Did not know that. :/ The double-digit score and ranking problems remain though.

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by teamhappy »

BasDirks wrote: post #33

"We love a clear time indication, and Helvetica seemed to be the clearest typeface for our display." No, I highly doubt you did any research. Helvetica numerals don't work well here, especially with sloppy kerning. "We thought it could be interesting to add some useful informations without distracting you from watching your game." Like the glitchy animation for showing/hiding scores? "It’s not just a trend: infograph…

Your alternative for numerals? FF DIN/FF DIN Round maybe?

Re: Redesigning The World Cup 2014 Brazil

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Post by Someone »

notahacker wrote: post #23
k-mcgrady wrote: post #15

I notice there are no screenshots of these terrible UI's the author mentions. Probably because they are not terrible. They show a clock | team name | score | score | team name. It couldn't get much simpler to understand.

Here's the BBC one for instance: http://www.aotplaza.com/Files/Sport/Football/Euro%202012%20-... If there's one part of this you might want to "solve", it's the possible ambiguity with using three letter abbreviations for team names, which is the one thing the redesign doesn't attempt to change.

I like the abbreviated names, as they leave more room for actually looking at the game (an important aspect, often overlooked by makers of info graphics)

Also note how the BBC display places the score a long way from the left border to accommodate for viewers who still have 4:3 screens and upscale the display in various ways.

The proposed design looks better, but the score will be cut of for some viewers.

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