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Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

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Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

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Post by hga »

reader5000 wrote: post #25
hga wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh. I'm not, but I live on a separate floor of a building with my father, so if we suffer from a home invasion one of us will be somewhat delayed in coming to the aid of the other. If we're alerted to it by the alarm system, then we'll be taking some time to clear our floor and turn off the alarm before likely realizing the other was threatened (an. And it's still an issue if you've got an armed partner, neither of…

This sounds good, but you're failing to take into account chemtrails. Think about it man, they already got you. Best to move to a safe location like say far outside of any US border.

You and kghose laugh at me and my father, but it sounds like we've got proven, time tested answers to violent crime directed at us, and you're in the "Dial 911 and die" category.

Latest failure: dial 911, get transferred to voicemail, and end up shooting one of the intruders: http://fox8.com/2014/06/14/man-shoots-intruder-after-his-911...

I do hope that you have enough moral consistency that if or when things get nasty, you don't pester your "gun nut" and "prepper" acquaintances but accept the fate your unpreparedness would normally dictate.

Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

#32

Post by [deleted] »

hga wrote: post #12
shrikant wrote: post #9

> A DuPont spokeswoman estimated that since the 1970s, 3,000 police officers have been saved from bullet wounds through the use of equipment reinforced with Kevlar [...] Does that number seem really low to anybody else?

Have you ever worn Kevlar body armor? The Feds have rather stupid requirements for it, that don't match the real world, but depend on deformation of clay behind a vest. So what cops wear is stiffer, and perhaps hotter than needed. Although I think heat is unavoidable, there's even relevant lines in Shakespeare's King Henry the Fourth : Like a rich armour worn in heat of day, That scalds with safety. So plenty of cops…

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Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

#33

Post by AmVess »

hga wrote: post #12
shrikant wrote: post #9

> A DuPont spokeswoman estimated that since the 1970s, 3,000 police officers have been saved from bullet wounds through the use of equipment reinforced with Kevlar [...] Does that number seem really low to anybody else?

Have you ever worn Kevlar body armor? The Feds have rather stupid requirements for it, that don't match the real world, but depend on deformation of clay behind a vest. So what cops wear is stiffer, and perhaps hotter than needed. Although I think heat is unavoidable, there's even relevant lines in Shakespeare's King Henry the Fourth : Like a rich armour worn in heat of day, That scalds with safety. So plenty of cops…

Former LEO here.

I wore it in mild weather (80F), and it wasn't a bother. Hot, but not uncomfortably so. Our portable offices where air conditioned, so this helped quite a lot.

Traffic related accidents are more dangerous overall than getting shot, IIRC. Small sample size: I was never shot at, but T-Boned twice while driving through a intersections. Both times, not under code, but normal traffic speed.

Nitwits.

Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

#34

Post by JshWright »

reader5000 wrote: post #25
hga wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh. I'm not, but I live on a separate floor of a building with my father, so if we suffer from a home invasion one of us will be somewhat delayed in coming to the aid of the other. If we're alerted to it by the alarm system, then we'll be taking some time to clear our floor and turn off the alarm before likely realizing the other was threatened (an. And it's still an issue if you've got an armed partner, neither of…

This sounds good, but you're failing to take into account chemtrails. Think about it man, they already got you. Best to move to a safe location like say far outside of any US border.

You realize home invasions are a real thing, right? Personally, I think hba's preparations are a little excessive (certainly far beyond anything I would feel necessary), but he's not crazy...

Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

#35

Post by salgernon »

hga wrote: post #31
reader5000 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds good, but you're failing to take into account chemtrails. Think about it man, they already got you. Best to move to a safe location like say far outside of any US border.

You and kghose laugh at me and my father, but it sounds like we've got proven, time tested answers to violent crime directed at us, and you're in the "Dial 911 and die" category. Latest failure: dial 911, get transferred to voicemail, and end up shooting one of the intruders: http://fox8.com/2014/06/14/man-shoots-intruder-after-his-911... I do hope that you have enough moral consistency that if or when things get nas…

You make the world you want and deserve.

Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

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Post by Spooky23 »

shrikant wrote: post #9

> A DuPont spokeswoman estimated that since the 1970s, 3,000 police officers have been saved from bullet wounds through the use of equipment reinforced with Kevlar [...] Does that number seem really low to anybody else?

Life isn't TV. Most cops never fire their gun. My neighbor growing up was a grizzled NYPD patrol sergeant. He said that he never pulled his gun on anyone, but he cracked a few heads in his time with a club. Nowadays, it's easier to shoot than to beat up people.

Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

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Post by hga »

AmVess wrote: post #33
hga wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever worn Kevlar body armor? The Feds have rather stupid requirements for it, that don't match the real world, but depend on deformation of clay behind a vest. So what cops wear is stiffer, and perhaps hotter than needed. Although I think heat is unavoidable, there's even relevant lines in Shakespeare's King Henry the Fourth : Like a rich armour worn in heat of day, That scalds with safety. So plenty of cops…

Former LEO here. I wore it in mild weather (80F), and it wasn't a bother. Hot, but not uncomfortably so. Our portable offices where air conditioned, so this helped quite a lot. Traffic related accidents are more dangerous overall than getting shot, IIRC. Small sample size: I was never shot at, but T-Boned twice while driving through a intersections. Both times, not under code, but normal traffic speed. Nitwits.

I've not tried it in really hot weather, and haven't found it to be really uncomfortable, but certainly more that I judged worth it for my pretty low current threat level. I do wear it very occasionally when I have to go out late at night. (Level II-A from a company I've never heard of, 1994 manufacture, didn't go to any great effort to get something good or well fitted (it's oversized at the belly, no doubt making that area a lot stiffer due to overlap), it's more insurance for disasters and the like than anything else.)

And thinking about it, if you ignore an ... adventure or two of my youngest brother's with shoplifters while he was working retail at a men's clothing store, none of my nuclear family have experienced any stranger face to face crime, as you might put it.

But we do have a couple of incidents of sitting in front of a red light at an intersection and BANG! Something like that also happened to my father CORRECTION: while avoiding a head on collision with a Pepsi truck who's driver was asleep, his company car, fortunately, got a non-disabling hit in the rear left quarter. He did teach all of us to drive very defensively ... but there's not much you can do when in front of a red light.

Nitwits indeed.

Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

#38

Post by ForHackernews »

hga wrote: post #31
reader5000 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds good, but you're failing to take into account chemtrails. Think about it man, they already got you. Best to move to a safe location like say far outside of any US border.

You and kghose laugh at me and my father, but it sounds like we've got proven, time tested answers to violent crime directed at us, and you're in the "Dial 911 and die" category. Latest failure: dial 911, get transferred to voicemail, and end up shooting one of the intruders: http://fox8.com/2014/06/14/man-shoots-intruder-after-his-911... I do hope that you have enough moral consistency that if or when things get nas…

> I do hope that you have enough moral consistency that if or when things get nasty, you don't pester your "gun nut" and "prepper" acquaintances but accept the fate your unpreparedness would normally dictate.

What are you talking about? If Armageddon comes, we're obviously going to murder you and take all your supplies. I mean, "moral consistency" is nice and everything, but it's nothing weighed against the survival of my family.

Maybe you should invest more effort in shoring up our civilization, instead of eagerly anticipating its downfall.

Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

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Post by hga »

ForHackernews wrote: post #38
hga wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You and kghose laugh at me and my father, but it sounds like we've got proven, time tested answers to violent crime directed at us, and you're in the "Dial 911 and die" category. Latest failure: dial 911, get transferred to voicemail, and end up shooting one of the intruders: http://fox8.com/2014/06/14/man-shoots-intruder-after-his-911... I do hope that you have enough moral consistency that if or when things get nas…

> I do hope that you have enough moral consistency that if or when things get nasty, you don't pester your "gun nut" and "prepper" acquaintances but accept the fate your unpreparedness would normally dictate. What are you talking about? If Armageddon comes, we're obviously going to murder you and take all your supplies. I mean, "moral consistency" is nice and everything, but it's nothing weighed against the survival…

"If Armageddon comes, we're obviously going to murder you and take all your supplies."

And how will you accomplish this when we have the guns, and you don't? Who's going to bell the cat?

"Armageddon" will very likely kill me due to disruptions in pharmaceutical supply (I'm 53 with a chronic medical condition). That you assume I'm "eagerly anticipating [civilization's] downfall", and doing nothing in the meanwhile to delay or forestall it, from no more data than that I'm prepared for bad things and bad times, says rather a lot. That this dehumanizing attitude is so common with your breathen certainly makes my moral calculations for the future a lot simpler.

Re: Stephanie L. Kwolek, Inventor of Kevlar, Is Dead at 90

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Post by XorNot »

nicholas73 wrote: post #27
hga wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just how peaceful do you think the US will remain after e.g. we no longer can borrow "a trillion dollars a year" at negative real interest rates? Wars on arithmetic eventually fail, and I expect our's to in my lifetime. Note that I don't currently wear it when I go outdoors, currently don't even carry as many spare magazines as I perhaps should when I do. It's one of the logical things to do after you buy and train u…

Probably will mirror the experience Britain had once the pound lost its reserve status.

The US dollar isn't losing it's reserve status. What would replace it?

The day the Chinese Yuan floats freely might be a small step in that direction, but then we've also got "able to exchange any world currency into it" and "China has a growth rate which is realistically maintainable".

You don't get negative interest rates because people don't want to hold US dollars.

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