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Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't do anything. The keyboard resizes the activity window. There's nothing behind it to show through it.

There's an option to undock it from the bottom of the screen, in which case transparency could be useful.

Huh, where? Maybe I have an old version? No update request though.

Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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Another keyboard that requires network connectivity, profile/contact data, call state, access to photos/recordings (eh?) and even wants to send SMS[1]. Do users really don't care and blindly ignore all security warnings? Just wondering why keyboard makers don't provide "restricted" builds of their software, that intentionally lack some features, but still serve their purpose by providing an efficient method to type a…

The SMS permission is so that it can read your SMS messages to use as training data for their word-completion prediction features.

As to why SwiftKey doesn't strip out most of the features that makes it better than the official keyboard and sell it to a small market of people who don't want the features that are the app's actual selling point... well, that's why, those are the features that differentiate them, without them they're not really that special.

Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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Another keyboard that requires network connectivity, profile/contact data, call state, access to photos/recordings (eh?) and even wants to send SMS[1]. Do users really don't care and blindly ignore all security warnings? Just wondering why keyboard makers don't provide "restricted" builds of their software, that intentionally lack some features, but still serve their purpose by providing an efficient method to type a…

> Do users really don't care and blindly ignore all security warnings?

Even if they care, when the choice is not to install any apps or to ignore the warnings....

Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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post #18

I can now give my data away for free instead of paying. Woo hoo. :)

No "cloud-enabled" app without snarky comments about data sharing. Sigh. I personally like the dictionary sync across devices. Especially because I use SwiftKey for German which always suffers from terrible dictionary coverage. But what stops you from disabling all online features?

That's a valid concern, though. Why should one invest their time in firewalling their phone or reverse engineering app, when cloud sync could be put into a separate package?

Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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Another keyboard that requires network connectivity, profile/contact data, call state, access to photos/recordings (eh?) and even wants to send SMS[1]. Do users really don't care and blindly ignore all security warnings? Just wondering why keyboard makers don't provide "restricted" builds of their software, that intentionally lack some features, but still serve their purpose by providing an efficient method to type a…

I'm also wondering why Google doesn't provide a way to limit app permissions and feed them dummy data. (they did for a while)

Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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post #32

Another keyboard that requires network connectivity, profile/contact data, call state, access to photos/recordings (eh?) and even wants to send SMS[1]. Do users really don't care and blindly ignore all security warnings? Just wondering why keyboard makers don't provide "restricted" builds of their software, that intentionally lack some features, but still serve their purpose by providing an efficient method to type a…

The SMS permission is so that it can read your SMS messages to use as training data for their word-completion prediction features. As to why SwiftKey doesn't strip out most of the features that makes it better than the official keyboard and sell it to a small market of people who don't want the features that are the app's actual selling point... well, that's why, those are the features that differentiate them, withou…

> The SMS permission is so that it can read your SMS messages

Either it's a bug in a Play Store, or we're talking about different permissions. For me, it says (in Russian, no idea how to switch language) "Отправка SMS и MMS (может взиматься плата)" which translates to "Sending SMS and MMS (fees may apply)".

Unless Google broke something with their recent permission revamp, I assume it's SEND_SMS, not READ_SMS permission. And that's worrying - I fail to see why should I grant such permission to a keyboard. It's not SMS-sending app, I have a separate one for that.

Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The SMS permission is so that it can read your SMS messages to use as training data for their word-completion prediction features. As to why SwiftKey doesn't strip out most of the features that makes it better than the official keyboard and sell it to a small market of people who don't want the features that are the app's actual selling point... well, that's why, those are the features that differentiate them, withou…

> The SMS permission is so that it can read your SMS messages Either it's a bug in a Play Store, or we're talking about different permissions. For me, it says (in Russian, no idea how to switch language) "Отправка SMS и MMS (может взиматься плата)" which translates to "Sending SMS and MMS (fees may apply)". Unless Google broke something with their recent permission revamp, I assume it's SEND_SMS, not READ_SMS permiss…

Appears to be a localization error? Here's what it looks like in English.[1]

[1]http://i.imgur.com/li8jHu2.png

Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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post #10

I have tried many different Android keyboards: Old and new stock ones, swype, ultimate, tons of non-qwerty ones; but I always end up coming back to Swift. It's just the only one that is Precise and Aggressive enough to support really fast typing. Good luck to them now, on iPhone!

As someone who jumped from Android to iPhone (it was curiosity, not a "I'm fed up with this! ARGH!" thing), I've been seriously missing the ability to use different keyboards. I cannot wait to be able to use them again.

For work I often have to use both. I loathe the iPhone keyboard. Is there a reason they don't change case of the letter display when you change the case of the letters? It seems ridiculous on a touchscreen display. (Done using the swipe of SwiftKey on a Moto E).

Re: Swiftkey Keyboard Android is now free

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post #32

Another keyboard that requires network connectivity, profile/contact data, call state, access to photos/recordings (eh?) and even wants to send SMS[1]. Do users really don't care and blindly ignore all security warnings? Just wondering why keyboard makers don't provide "restricted" builds of their software, that intentionally lack some features, but still serve their purpose by providing an efficient method to type a…

The SMS permission is so that it can read your SMS messages to use as training data for their word-completion prediction features. As to why SwiftKey doesn't strip out most of the features that makes it better than the official keyboard and sell it to a small market of people who don't want the features that are the app's actual selling point... well, that's why, those are the features that differentiate them, withou…

As for features... I thought their primary selling point is being smart - their pattern recognition logic, that translates swipes to words and sentences. A good dictionary, a good language model and so on.

I really doubt the thing that differentiates them from other keyboards is that they learn from message history and sync that over the network.

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