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Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The monopolies haven't been allowed since 1992. http://articles.philly.com/1992-10-19/business/26000502_1_ca...

… and yet in practice many people live in an area where they have only one option either at all or for greater than DSL (or even ISDN) speed. I'm not talking about rural areas, either, but places like New Haven, CT or Washington, DC. Theoretically a new company could try to compete but the major companies tend to choose not to start price wars and it's a very expensive proposition to run competing cable out to houses…

> Theoretically a new company could try to compete but the major companies tend to choose not to start price wars and it's a very expensive proposition to run competing cable out to houses, particularly since the incumbent will usually lower prices to make it more expensive for the new entrant. Around here, in the areas which have competition both Verizon and Comcast will cut and remove the other company's cables when they do a new install to maximize the cost and inconvenience of switching providers.

I have no idea where you heard this fairy tale. Comcast and Verizon sub out almost all their installs and line work to local contractors -- and most of these contractors have contracts with multiple telcos and cable companies. If the contractors are maliciously cutting wires, it's to get more work for themselves.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be more angry if the government allows monopolies to throttle our Internet speeds and discriminate content delivery towards major players who can afford to pay extortion money.. To me it's worth a few annoyances over the next few days if it helps raise popular awareness of this important issue.

the problem with this one is that the message is unclear. when I first read it 'we' sounded like the webmaster rather than Comcast. I got the point because I have context. they need clearer messaging. also on mobile chrome it is impossible to click the 'x'

I agree, I also do not think that automatically subscribing those who agree to future mailings ("Free Press will contact you about future campaigns.") is a good way to garner good will from the audience this banner would target.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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Is there anywhere a curated list of ISPs who have actively spoken in favour of net neutrality (AAISP in the UK is the only one that springs quickly to mind, but I assume they aren't the only ones) and those who are apparently working against it? Perhaps with the IP ranges those ISPs are assigned? That way those of us who don't rely on any income from our sites could give those using the good guys speedier access (I w…

Is your suggestion to support NN by violating it?

You don't just let the Japanese get away with bombing Pearl Harbor, because that sends a message in and of itself.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#35
post #9

ISP already provide variable speed plans to consumers. You already have to pay more to get a faster connection, at least with Comcast. Very disingenuous and incorrect. I doubt anyone will see dial up speeds. They're not threatening to inject popups into web sites. So take the ridiculous dramaticized slow speeds away and the silly modal you're still left with an incorrect premise. The threat is not that consumers will…

Why wouldn't my peer-to-peer traffic be throttled down to dialup speeds? Or traffic from any site with less than a million dollars to spend, assuming that all of the top 100 sites sign up, and Wikipedia gets a discount or a pass? >I doubt anyone will see dial up speeds. I'm not reassured in any way by your doubts.

They can already do this. They can already make your default speeds slow, and they don't. Slow lane vs fast lane is not about this.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#36
post #23

This site is unusable on a mobile device. An overlay appears which is much wider than the screen, and the close button is (presumably) offscreen, but since scrolling is inhibited too, I can't get to it.

If you refresh, the ad won't show up again. But the site still doesn't display on mobile. What a piece of garbage, it's 2014!

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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Ironically, I would have contacted my representative/senator already if the "Contact Congress" button took me to a chart/table/list of senators by district - or other way for me to do the contacting myself. I don't need any correspondence from FreePress.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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post #32
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

… and yet in practice many people live in an area where they have only one option either at all or for greater than DSL (or even ISDN) speed. I'm not talking about rural areas, either, but places like New Haven, CT or Washington, DC. Theoretically a new company could try to compete but the major companies tend to choose not to start price wars and it's a very expensive proposition to run competing cable out to houses…

> Theoretically a new company could try to compete but the major companies tend to choose not to start price wars and it's a very expensive proposition to run competing cable out to houses, particularly since the incumbent will usually lower prices to make it more expensive for the new entrant. Around here, in the areas which have competition both Verizon and Comcast will cut and remove the other company's cables whe…

The worst experience I had with cutting wires was a condo separated into 4 units, all at 1 junction box, and when someone new would move in, it would be 50/50 on the phone company -- the same phone company servicing everyone -- botching the new person's installation by cutting off someone else's.

I have both DSL and cable modem at my house. There was no cutting of the first when the second was installed. The installer has no way to tell if that phone line is running DSL or if I'm still getting cable TV over that coax. That would not be tolerated for a second.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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post #16

I've been seeing a lot of back and forth about this issue and it seems to me the one thing we should be concerned about is not so much the user experience, but the experience of those with new ideas, which rely on access to an open internet. Today we have these massive companies making enough money to buy the access they need/want to run their businesses, but small shops don't have that capital, and from what I have…

To support my view, here you go https://stripe.com/blog/network-neutrality

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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post #32
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

… and yet in practice many people live in an area where they have only one option either at all or for greater than DSL (or even ISDN) speed. I'm not talking about rural areas, either, but places like New Haven, CT or Washington, DC. Theoretically a new company could try to compete but the major companies tend to choose not to start price wars and it's a very expensive proposition to run competing cable out to houses…

> Theoretically a new company could try to compete but the major companies tend to choose not to start price wars and it's a very expensive proposition to run competing cable out to houses, particularly since the incumbent will usually lower prices to make it more expensive for the new entrant. Around here, in the areas which have competition both Verizon and Comcast will cut and remove the other company's cables whe…

> I have no idea where you heard this fairy tale.

4 friends and coworkers who had it happen, mentioned separately and on several occasions this happened in a group setting and was immediately confirmed by other people who had the same experience.

You'll forgive me for finding them more convincing than your argument from incredulity. It's entirely possible that this a grassroots thing but the people affected spanned ~100 miles and multiple states.

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