The immediate result: a diminished user experience. Strategy tax in full effect.
Don't worry. Facebook will never do something like this to the Oculus Rift.
Love this quote!
But seriously, who didn't think this was going to happen?
Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
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Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#32To all the people automatically assuming that this is a result of facebook acquiring instagram, what if this actually improves the user experience? What if instagram always wanted to integrate with facebook because they knew it was a better user experience and yet didn't because they knew facebook was instagram's #1 competitor? In that case the acquisition enables a positive. I, for one, could not give a crap about f…
Facebook acquired Instagram not Foursquare.
woops :)
Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#33Seems like a no-brainer. Facebook owning Instagram means this is just Facebook ditching a competitor's product for their own.
After Facebook acquired Instagram they were really clear that they wanted them to stay independent. I wonder how "independently" they made this decision to switch to Facebook Places instead of Foursquare. Instagram ads are most likely just Facebook's new ad platform. Facebook just removed their Camera app from the app store ( http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2457866,00.asp ) because Instagram IS their Camera app.
Tbh, if it was done outside the US/Canada, I'd say it could have been an independent decision. As others have said, outside of NA, all I hear is people complaining about the quality of Foursquare's data. ;)
That said...is anyone who actually thought about it really that surprised?
They are almost always being deceptive when they make claims of "independence", "nothing will change", etc. The truth is, most companies choose to maximize shareholder value/profits over other ethical constraints because C-level compensation is chained to the shareholder's interests as best as can be managed in most companies.
It would have been nice if Facebook was more like Buffer [e.g. Transparent, Honest], but does anyone ever really seeing a company like Buffer growing to even 5% of Facebook's current Market Cap [150 Billion]?
Deception works at scale. Politics have proved that quite well, unfortunately.
Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't worry. Facebook will never do something like this to the Oculus Rift.
Love this quote! But seriously, who didn't think this was going to happen?
I hold out hope every time someone claims such BS, I like trying to be optimistic.
I don't really -expect- them to follow through tho. :/
Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook doesn't seem to measure for quality, they just seem to measure for quantity..
FWIW, Foursquare data in Europe is not very good, I think FB geo data is better. I've mentioned this before on HN, Foursquare in Europe is quite unreliable, with places appearing way off the real location, badly categorised (e.g. a restaurant categorised as a bar), etc. I guess quality on these services depends where you are.
I am curious how this can be possible?
Does FB and Foursquare utilise broadly similar geo-location technology from within the mobile device?
Not saying you are incorrect - just wondering if a technical expert could elaborate on the accuracy.
Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW, Foursquare data in Europe is not very good, I think FB geo data is better. I've mentioned this before on HN, Foursquare in Europe is quite unreliable, with places appearing way off the real location, badly categorised (e.g. a restaurant categorised as a bar), etc. I guess quality on these services depends where you are.
I am curious how this can be possible? Does FB and Foursquare utilise broadly similar geo-location technology from within the mobile device? Not saying you are incorrect - just wondering if a technical expert could elaborate on the accuracy.
They buy different starting data sets.
I guess most services also use things like the free GNIS data set from the U.S. government (it has good coverage, but the geocoding is not amazing).
Edit: And an entity like GNIS actually has less resources than Foursquare gets with its army of users (or at least, a lot less feedback generation).
Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#37Seems like a no-brainer. Facebook owning Instagram means this is just Facebook ditching a competitor's product for their own.
And is a great illustration of the potential downsides of highly vertical tech companies.
Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#38I'd be interested in the views of people that aren't in the US, and especially not in Western countries. Foursquare's database is great in the US, but when I've traveled I've found it to be nowhere near as good - I wonder if - in those cases - Facebook Places is better.
It's pretty good here in London. It's very rare for me to find a place that doesn't already exist in their Database.
Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#39The immediate result: a diminished user experience. Strategy tax in full effect.
Only in the US. And Places will get better faster. Not a bad strategy.
Re: Instagram Dropping Foursquare for Facebook Places
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
FWIW, Foursquare data in Europe is not very good, I think FB geo data is better. I've mentioned this before on HN, Foursquare in Europe is quite unreliable, with places appearing way off the real location, badly categorised (e.g. a restaurant categorised as a bar), etc. I guess quality on these services depends where you are.
I am curious how this can be possible? Does FB and Foursquare utilise broadly similar geo-location technology from within the mobile device? Not saying you are incorrect - just wondering if a technical expert could elaborate on the accuracy.
Probably more of a human thing than technical. The accuracy benefits from crowd-sourcing and Foursquare is used relatively significantly more in the US.