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Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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Post by danray »

rubbingalcohol wrote: post #26

What do you all think of this alternate version of the loader that rips on Comcast? http://rubbingalcoholic.com/#ALWAYS_SHOW_SL_WIDGET_COMCAST If anyone wants to help out with this or give me feedback directly, please email me jeff@rubbingalcoholic.com

Be careful -- practically speaking, using Comcast's and TWC's names/logos is more likely to attract their attention early, and will give their lawyers a stronger argument (against Github or third-party sites) to have it taken down.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#32

Post by orthecreedence »

rubbingalcohol wrote: post #26

What do you all think of this alternate version of the loader that rips on Comcast? http://rubbingalcoholic.com/#ALWAYS_SHOW_SL_WIDGET_COMCAST If anyone wants to help out with this or give me feedback directly, please email me jeff@rubbingalcoholic.com

I think this gets the point across more clearly, and I'd be much more likely to install this on my sites. The fact that you're immediately giving at least some context would make me a lot less confused as a user, and the site loading in the background makes it obvious that I'm in the right place to begin with.

While you guys obviously have a message to get out (a great message), you may want to consider adding a link someone could click to get rid of the widget and load the site immediately. Imagine that you saw four sites with the widget, then emailed your congresspeople, and now you have to keep dealing with them all throughout the day even if you already took action...it'd be annoying.

Thanks for all the work on this!

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

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Post by MichaelApproved »

exelius wrote: post #25
xwowsersx wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. If the site is somewhat heavily trafficked already (which is the kind of site that will actually have an impact), then they'll wait.

Heavily trafficked sites are already paying for a "fast lane" in the form of CDNs that cache everything but dynamic content. These CDNs already have interconnect agreements with the large ISPs (and have for years).

Interconnect agreements are different than "fast/slow lane". CDNs will need to pay a premium so that their traffic will not be slowed down, regardless of the peering agreement.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#34

Post by aroch »

danray wrote: post #31
rubbingalcohol wrote: post #26

What do you all think of this alternate version of the loader that rips on Comcast? http://rubbingalcoholic.com/#ALWAYS_SHOW_SL_WIDGET_COMCAST If anyone wants to help out with this or give me feedback directly, please email me jeff@rubbingalcoholic.com

Be careful -- practically speaking, using Comcast's and TWC's names/logos is more likely to attract their attention early, and will give their lawyers a stronger argument (against Github or third-party sites) to have it taken down.

     will give their lawyers a stronger argument
No it won't. Using the name and marks of the FCC to dicuss policy and actions by the FCC is clearly fair use.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#35

Post by holmesworcester »

alialkhatib wrote: post #30

I don't think this is the right approach. I realize that the principle is fundamentally the same with SOPA protests (depriving users of content to highlight the danger of this passing), but there's a more salient argument that you could make here if you really wanted. Why not implement a loading bar that actually progressed slowly and then put a brief explanation underneath the loading bar describing the FCC "slow la…

We're adding more explanation to the loading screen. Also, for folks who don't want to interrupt users, here's an anigif to post. http://imgur.com/PQRaxNa (putting this up on the site now)

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#36

Post by exelius »

MichaelApproved wrote: post #33
exelius wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heavily trafficked sites are already paying for a "fast lane" in the form of CDNs that cache everything but dynamic content. These CDNs already have interconnect agreements with the large ISPs (and have for years).

Interconnect agreements are different than "fast/slow lane". CDNs will need to pay a premium so that their traffic will not be slowed down, regardless of the peering agreement.

Interconnects are exactly what the "fast/slow lane" argument is about. Netflix bought interconnects from Comcast and Verizon. Just through buying interconnects to the ISPs, the CDNs ensure their traffic won't be slowed down by an intermediary like Cogent.

They're not intending to provide higher QoS for sites that pay up -- that's insane and it wouldn't work anyway.

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#37

Post by danray »

aroch wrote: post #34
danray wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Be careful -- practically speaking, using Comcast's and TWC's names/logos is more likely to attract their attention early, and will give their lawyers a stronger argument (against Github or third-party sites) to have it taken down.

will give their lawyers a stronger argument No it won't. Using the name and marks of the FCC to dicuss policy and actions by the FCC is clearly fair use.

I've edited to be clearer -- I'm referring to the use of Comcast's (and Time Warner's) logos, not the FCC's.

I agree that there are fair use arguments, which is why I said "practically": hosts take down fair-use content every day. A subset of that is eventually restored, but only after the parties have argued it out (frequently through their lawyers).

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#38

Post by dpe82 »

rubbingalcohol wrote: post #26

What do you all think of this alternate version of the loader that rips on Comcast? http://rubbingalcoholic.com/#ALWAYS_SHOW_SL_WIDGET_COMCAST If anyone wants to help out with this or give me feedback directly, please email me jeff@rubbingalcoholic.com

How about something that much more closely resembles slow page loading? Pop an explainer / action callout modal while the page slowly reveals itself, something like this:

http://jsfiddle.net/dpemmons/3zSSk/3/embedded/result/

Re: Stop the Slow Lane

#39

Post by dpe82 »

rubbingalcohol wrote: post #26

What do you all think of this alternate version of the loader that rips on Comcast? http://rubbingalcoholic.com/#ALWAYS_SHOW_SL_WIDGET_COMCAST If anyone wants to help out with this or give me feedback directly, please email me jeff@rubbingalcoholic.com

Also, let's not confuse people. The target is the FCC. We want people to contact FCC and complain about their (proposed) policies. If you're going to involve brands and logos, use theirs.
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