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John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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If the source code isn't available then any claims to being secure should be treated cautiously. For instance, how do we know that there aren't heartbleed-style errors in this anti-surveillance app?

I love open source, but we didn't know about heartbleed even with the sources available.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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post #21

Free software is a prerequisite for software to be "anti-surveillance" and I see no indication that Chadder is free software.

Libre is a prerequisite, gratis isn't. This is an important distinction to make. While it is true that this software seems to be neither, it is important to note when we try to convince them to release it free, we mean libre and not necessarily gratis . (Although the two often go hand in hand.) When people hear us complaining about it, they often think we want to avoid paying money for it. This is false, and a bad im…

Libre isn't prerequisite either. Access to buildable source is.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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Nothing against John McAfee, I have no idea what happened in Belize, and he can probably have a wonderful career as a reality TV star or a similar effort.

But I wouldn't touch a security product he offers with a 20 foot pole. Literally I wouldn't even visit the site, let alone hover my mouse over the download link.

And no, not because of McAfee Antivirus, but despite it.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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I think the biggest problem here is that the application claims to be "anti-surveillance" yet it doesn't really solve the surveillance problem, namely meta-data.

If anything this application helps surveillance by filtering out the communication from "regular" communication.

We have had encrypted messaging for ages now. I cannot tell what's new here.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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post #5

Why do people keep releasing messaging applications? These things rarely, if ever catch on. Awaiting the inevitable HN thread about how Chadder is flawed.

Small investment, tiny chance of success, huge payoff iff successful. It is the lottery of applications.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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Why do people keep releasing messaging applications? These things rarely, if ever catch on. Awaiting the inevitable HN thread about how Chadder is flawed.

Same reason people buy lottery tickets. Big winners motivate people to replicate their efforts cargo-cult style.

Remember the thousands of "pixel ad" sites following the Million Dollar Homepage?

Remember the thousands of Flappy Bird clones?

Prepare for more chat apps, because WhatsApp scored big.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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post #31
post #11

Or use TextSecure and RedPhone: https://whispersystems.org/ ( https://github.com/WhisperSystems/TextSecure/ )

Isn't that Android only?

The iOS client will (hopefully) be released in the next few months.

Re: John McAfee releases secure anti-surveillance messaging app ‘Chadder’

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post #32
post #20

If the source code isn't available then any claims to being secure should be treated cautiously. For instance, how do we know that there aren't heartbleed-style errors in this anti-surveillance app?

I love open source, but we didn't know about heartbleed even with the sources available.

I think that it's rather because the source was available, we eventually found out about heartbleed.
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