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Re: Results of the GitHub Investigation

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Post by chuhnk »

This has to be an incredibly difficult moment in Tom Preston-Werner's life. Regardless of what may have happened. To build a company from the ground up and then have to walk away from it. I'm sure we all remember GitHub during its infancy and the enthusiasm with which founders worked on it. A hugely successful bootstrapped company.

Re: Results of the GitHub Investigation

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Post by mef »

cjbprime wrote: post #14

There appear to have been weirdnesses around the investigation, such as Julie Ann Horvath (and other ex-employees) remaining uncontacted until it was wrapping up: https://twitter.com/nrrrdcore/status/453298152569720832 So I don't know how much stock you can place behind the idea that the investigators GH hired, who did not contact ex-employees competently, found them blameless. The resignation probably speaks for mor…

Theresa Preston-Werner's response https://medium.com/p/2fe173c44215

Re: Results of the GitHub Investigation

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Post by DannyBee »

cjbprime wrote: post #14

There appear to have been weirdnesses around the investigation, such as Julie Ann Horvath (and other ex-employees) remaining uncontacted until it was wrapping up: https://twitter.com/nrrrdcore/status/453298152569720832 So I don't know how much stock you can place behind the idea that the investigators GH hired, who did not contact ex-employees competently, found them blameless. The resignation probably speaks for mor…

So, remember that what Julie says about them not contacting her is itself, and allegation.

Her picture proves nothing, after all.

Your conclusion about "how much stock to place" does not follow, since this allegation has not been proven true.

Having been involved in this sort of thing before, both on the "asked to investigate" and "asked to play witness for an employee side", i'd say the truth always lies somewhere in between, and both employers and employees tend to behave badly.

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Post by [deleted] »

chrismonsanto wrote: post #8

> The investigation found no evidence to support the claims [...] of a sexist or hostile work environment. So, are they saying that Horvath was lying? I mean, there was a lot of specific stuff she mentioned that seemed inappropriate. I don't want to get into whether the behavior was "sexist" or not, but I think we can all agree that if what she said was true, the work environment was hostile and unprofessional.

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Re: Results of the GitHub Investigation

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Post by samstave »

I have a question/observation that may be offensive, and it is not meant to be - so pardon my ignorance if this is a misguided perception:

When this story first ran and I was reading JA Horvaths tweets in the surrounding days - and reading whatever other articles related to this story were - I got the impression that she didn't necessarily seem like the most easy-going-innocent victim, and I wondered; what if she was actually a difficult to work-with person?

This is in no way a defense of any actions of any party, it was just a perception of the language, tone and content of the messages that Mrs. Horvath used gave me the perception that she wouldn't be the most desirable co-worker....

Now, I have nothing to substantiate such an opinion other than the tweets and stories I read just left me with this impression....

So, could it be that while her allegations are true, she is also a participant in the situation whereby she could have been acting poorly/using poor judgement?

Finally, I recognize that the actions of the wife of the founder are the most insidious, and a clear cause of concern, assuming they are in fact true...

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