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Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

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Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

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post #19

> I'll get half the site working, demo it to you, give you all the code thus far, and you'll pay me $1,172.50. You should ask for 1/4 up-front, before you write any code.

As someone who isn't used to taking upfront payments, my question is, are people actually willing to do that?

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Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

#32
post #23
post #19

> I'll get half the site working, demo it to you, give you all the code thus far, and you'll pay me $1,172.50. You should ask for 1/4 up-front, before you write any code.

As someone who isn't used to taking upfront payments, my question is, are people actually willing to do that?

For project work? Yes. Dear god, yes. Always get something up front.

Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

#33
post #20

Maybe you can roll the numbers up a digit for each successive job… Having done "MVP" work before, I wouldn't undervalue your work like this for to long or you'll be facing burnout quickly.

Hm, I'm hearing that a lot. Is $2,345 really that little? I've been living near the poverty line by choice, and $2,345 lasts me about two months. In either case, I guess it would turn off half the visitors if I just changed the price right now.

Depends on where you live. I was in NY and that wouldn't have gone very far. Try out a few projects, and you can change it later as you feel more comfortable charging more. Figuring out what you're worth is pretty hard when you're starting out because it's easy to approach pricing based on what you would pay for the service your offering, than what the reasonable market price is, or even what $ value your client is getting out of what you're building them.

Also charging more for successive jobs wasn't a joke. You're being pretty transparent about your pricing; you could keep going and post how much each project cost and what the thing was that you built for that. Might make a more lasting marketing ploy.

Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

#34
post #6

I like the idea, but: $2,345 / (40 * 3) = $19.5416666667/hr I guess if you're just starting, that's decent money, but I don't think I could run with the same idea myself. I'd probably need to add a 1 to the front of your number.

To be honest, I said 3 weeks just to be safe (the old rule of doubling what you think you need). The plan was also to work on multiple projects in parallel. You're right though, I am just starting off, and already feel a bit guilty asking for anything north of $5k.

Working on multiple projects at once on tight deadlines is a great way erode the quality of the development you produce for your clients. I would think with such short deadlines you'd want to give your clients the courtesy of focusing on them individually and then stagger development of your future projects accordingly.

Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

#35

I like the idea, but: $2,345 / (40 * 3) = $19.5416666667/hr I guess if you're just starting, that's decent money, but I don't think I could run with the same idea myself. I'd probably need to add a 1 to the front of your number.

I agree with the others. My initial assumption at this amount is that it wasn't 120 hours of work. It could be only 30-40 hours of work to get some basic python program going. He can control the features during the negotiation phase.

Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

#36
post #24
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest, I said 3 weeks just to be safe (the old rule of doubling what you think you need). The plan was also to work on multiple projects in parallel. You're right though, I am just starting off, and already feel a bit guilty asking for anything north of $5k.

Don't feel guilty. If you're price is too high you simply won't get leads. Better 3 high-paying customers than 10 low-paying customers: less support time.

That is a fact.

Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

#37
post #23
post #19

> I'll get half the site working, demo it to you, give you all the code thus far, and you'll pay me $1,172.50. You should ask for 1/4 up-front, before you write any code.

As someone who isn't used to taking upfront payments, my question is, are people actually willing to do that?

All right, thanks to everyone for the advice. 1/4 upfront it is. It does make my life easier.

Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

#38
post #20

Maybe you can roll the numbers up a digit for each successive job… Having done "MVP" work before, I wouldn't undervalue your work like this for to long or you'll be facing burnout quickly.

Hm, I'm hearing that a lot. Is $2,345 really that little? I've been living near the poverty line by choice, and $2,345 lasts me about two months. In either case, I guess it would turn off half the visitors if I just changed the price right now.

Yes, it's too little. Remember patio11's advice: you are not charging what the work or time is worth it TO YOU, you are charging what your output is worth it TO YOUR CUSTOMER :)

Also, having a starting price in the 10k+ range will help weed out bad apple customers. Trust us when we say that you want fewer high quality customers than a lot of pain-in-the-neck customers. Finally, charge 1/4th upfront like another poster said so you don't get screwed.

Re: Tell HN: I will build you a working MVP for $2,345

#40
post #11

Good Idea. But your own website looks little lame. Hope you update it soon.

"Cobbler's children have no shoes."[0] Busy consultants and developers rarely have the time to work on their own site. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoemaking#In_popular_culture

But if your business is developing web sites, your own web site is a strong signal to your potential customers about the quality of work that you do.
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