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Re: White House calls Dvorak's report "a lie"

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Post by Jeffery_XD » Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 11:42 PM UTC

marylander wrote: post #27

riffic wrote: post #3

John C. Dvorak has been on my list of "journalists who not to take totally seriously" for a long time.

According to Maryland State Annotated Code, Title 12, 12-101(b)7, the University System of Maryland is defined as "University, University of Maryland", and "University Maryland System". Then there is all the consolidated universities in the University of Maryland including College Park and UMUC. People ought to check their facts before they spread untruths. If you doubt what I'm saying, look up that code in Lexis/Nex…

In the UK, we understand that University College at Oxford is part of the Oxford system. Same holds true for both Jesus and Trinity Colleges. The university system, founded well before you Yanks got your footing in the world of academia, was designed to incorporate several colleges under a university system (thus the term "university" and not just "college"). Same holds true for our friends at Cambridge, consisting of several university colleges within the university system of Cambridge (check for yourself).

By indicting the U of M University College as sub-par, one would assume you are assailing the reputation of the entire University of Maryland as a whole. At least that's the way we view it from our perspective on academics here in the UK. Does the quality of education in the American collegiate system really degrade so dramatically from one school to the next? I thought Americans pride themselves in the quality of college-level academics... Thoughts?

Re: White House calls Dvorak's report "a lie"

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Post by amskid123 » Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 3:20 AM UTC

marylander wrote: post #30

teej wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The naming conventions of the schools make it a little confusing. I've lived in Maryland my entire life; hopefully I can bring some clarity. UMUC (University of Maryland, University College) is the place Kundra attended for his Masters. While UMUC offers online courses, it is primarily a brick & mortar accredited college targeted at working adults. They advertise heavily for working professionals looking to get gradu…

Again, the Maryland State Annotated Code, Title 12 of the Education Article, 12-101(b)7 informs that the definition of University, University of Maryland, and University of Maryland System refers to all colleges and universities in the University System of Maryland including UMUC and College Park. Also, UMUC is located directly on the College Park campus in College Park Maryland. It is not a valid assumption that whe…

Not true. The code was changed. There is no "University of Maryland System" anymore - only a "University System of MD" (www.usmd.edu)

UMUC and UMD are two different schools and the degrees says so.

Re: White House calls Dvorak's report "a lie"

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Post by amskid123 » Thu, Sep 17, 2009, 3:25 AM UTC

marylander wrote: post #30

teej wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The naming conventions of the schools make it a little confusing. I've lived in Maryland my entire life; hopefully I can bring some clarity. UMUC (University of Maryland, University College) is the place Kundra attended for his Masters. While UMUC offers online courses, it is primarily a brick & mortar accredited college targeted at working adults. They advertise heavily for working professionals looking to get gradu…

Again, the Maryland State Annotated Code, Title 12 of the Education Article, 12-101(b)7 informs that the definition of University, University of Maryland, and University of Maryland System refers to all colleges and universities in the University System of Maryland including UMUC and College Park. Also, UMUC is located directly on the College Park campus in College Park Maryland. It is not a valid assumption that whe…

Not true. And not sure why you think you can get something for nothing. First, the code was changed. There is no "University of Maryland System" anymore - only a "University System of MD" (www.usmd.edu) UMUC degrees say "UMUC". UMCP degrees say, simply: "University of Maryland", and UMCP is the only school in the USMD authorized to do so as the flagship university.

UMUC is a separate university within the USMD. Why you would attempt to argue otherwise is beyond me. It is a fine school for its mission -- but is not U-Md.

UMUC and UMD are two different schools and the degrees says so. for example, an MBA from the top 25 UMD can be found here:

www.rhsmith.umd.edu

The UMUC MBA (open admissions, different school) is different and can be found here.

www.umuc.edu/mba