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Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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It's odd, though - in some European countries, the glossy screens are considered ergonomically harmful and are therefore banned from the workplace. So you can't give your employees iMacs, smaller Macbooks, etc. to work on. You'd think Apple would be a bit keener to sell to businesses.

Apple traditionally hasn't sold to businesses due to Big Corporations apparent desire to quash anything capable of spurring original thought in its workers. Business is packed full of contradictions from rules they've created for themselves, like using uniforms and team building exercises to help the workers feel part of a group, but positively crap themselves at the idea of their workers unionising due to feeling li…

Sure, maybe not large corporations, but a lot of small businesses use macs, and on the desktop, you currently only have the choice between the Mac Mini and the Mac Pro, which is definitely suboptimal.

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Amen to this. I've never understood the appeal of glossy displays. To me they're almost unusuable except under the most ideal lighting conditions.

Nonsense. You have it backwards. Matte screens really require the ideal lighting conditions.

Easy test: take one of each, and go outside.

Sunlight washes out a matte screen to the point of being impossible to use.

Glossy screens reflect much of that light away, leaving the screen still legible.

As someone that used to do a lot of work outdoors on a laptop, there's no comparison. Glossy screens are usable in FAR, FAR more varied lighting conditions. Too much direct light and a matte screen becomes completely useless.

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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No kidding. They look nicer when the computer is turned off? Is that really worth the extra glare for people?

I don't think it's quite as clear cut. Matte never look black, more a sort of dark grey. Contrast+brightness on glossy seems better.

It seems better, but I'm pretty sure it's an illusion that comes at a cost of color accuracy. The glossy screen reflects more light before it hits the actual display, reducing the amount of light needed to be absorbed to give a true black, and also causing the color-matching issues described in the article.

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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In what situation would someone prefer glossy? I don't get that. Glossy is obviously much worse. Can someone explain this to me?

I use my laptop mostly indoors in my home office with controlled lighting. The glossy screen looks better, deeper blacks, more vibrant colors, etc... While I wouldn't use it for photo or pre-press work, I really like it in general.

But isn't the point of a laptop portability? The glossy screen makes it significantly less portable -- in anything but ideal lighting, everything in front of the screen is reflected in a way that interferes with the intended image. That just doesn't sound conducive to usefulness in a laptop.

If you just use it inside your home office, why buy a laptop in the first place?

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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I use my laptop mostly indoors in my home office with controlled lighting. The glossy screen looks better, deeper blacks, more vibrant colors, etc... While I wouldn't use it for photo or pre-press work, I really like it in general.

But isn't the point of a laptop portability? The glossy screen makes it significantly less portable -- in anything but ideal lighting, everything in front of the screen is reflected in a way that interferes with the intended image. That just doesn't sound conducive to usefulness in a laptop. If you just use it inside your home office, why buy a laptop in the first place?

It can be hard to use a desktop sitting on the couch in your home office. The laptop takes up a lot less room when your home office is also your entertainment room.

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Amen to this. I've never understood the appeal of glossy displays. To me they're almost unusuable except under the most ideal lighting conditions.

Nonsense. You have it backwards. Matte screens really require the ideal lighting conditions. Easy test: take one of each, and go outside. Sunlight washes out a matte screen to the point of being impossible to use. Glossy screens reflect much of that light away, leaving the screen still legible. As someone that used to do a lot of work outdoors on a laptop, there's no comparison. Glossy screens are usable in FAR, FAR…

This hasn't been my experience at all. My previous lappy had a glossy screen, and I simply couldn't use it outside, and it's one of the reasons I didn't buy an Apple laptop when I got a new one a couple of months ago (bought a Dell Latitude with a super bright matte screen that works great indoors and out).

I think saying, "Glossy screens reflect much of that light away, leaving the screen still legible" is magical thinking. The reflected light goes into your eye, just like the light that's coming from the screen.

A sufficiently bright glossy screen and placing the lappy out of direct sunlight could overcome this problem, but I'm pretty darned sure matte screens work better than shiny ones outdoors.

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