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Judge says prosecutors should follow the law. Prosecutors revolt.

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Re: Judge says prosecutors should follow the law. Prosecutors revolt.

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Two things: 1. I suspect the genisis of this immunity was to inoculate prosecutors from coercion by politicians - which is probably a good thing. But I would be curious to know about the logic behind it. 2. While perhaps it might be worthwhile to have some level of immunity that logic frays somewhat when acts that would generally be considered immoral and perhaps criminal are unaddressable.

The "absolute immunity" for prosecutors was established in Imbler v. Pachtman (1976). The logic is that if prosecutors could be sued by people they accused but failed to convict, that "would cause a deflection of the prosecutor's energies from his public duties, and the possibility that he would shade his decisions instead of exercising the independence of judgment required by his public trust." ( http://scholar.goog…

interesting, thank you!

Re: Judge says prosecutors should follow the law. Prosecutors revolt.

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One problem with the Judge's statement is that it is beyond the scope of an actual case or controversy. A Judge should judge each case individually not make up general rules and policies to prospectively apply to future behaviour, since that is for the legislature and executive in a separation of powers system. If the Judge wants to issue a warning or punishment to a particular prosecutor for a particular inappropriate behavior that would be in bounds; but media statements designed to influence elections are out of bounds for american judicial behavior.

Re: Judge says prosecutors should follow the law. Prosecutors revolt.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Add on top of the few bad apples spoiling the barrel the fact that certain positions and jobs create quite strong arrogant bastard self-selection pressures and it's an extra recipe for disaster. It's the same as the NSA -- people who have doubts about the system or feel like being lenient will self-select out, just like those who believe in actual privacy and civil liberties will self-select out of the NSA, creating…

I appreciate the intent to use random citizens to hold power, but prosecutor might be the position where years of professional training matters. Remember what Churchill said about five minutes with the average voters? Well, there is one bigger scandal in any democracy (it is actually mentioned in the article) and that’s how much someone accused of anything, specially if he happens to be unattractive, socially isolate…

I think that one solution is to make being a prosecutor a political dead end. In other words, convince the public to never, under any circumstances, vote for anybody who has ever been a prosecutor (except perhaps if the position in question is prosecutor, though excluding this exception would be creating de facto term limits which might be a good idea anyway...).

That way somebody only becomes a prosecutor if being a prosecutor is what they actually want to do with their career in public service. It would not be a stepping stone for a further career in politics.

If term limits (de facto or de jure) existed for prosecutors, that would put the brakes on prosecutors optimizing for conviction rate.

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