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How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
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Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#32Yet another reason not to use cloud services. For start dropbox is infrastructure provider and they have no right to snoop inside your files. If they start blocking stuff at their own will they are judge and executor. Secondly there is lot of potential for abuse. Hacker could sneak hash collision into their database and essentially censor-ship any document he wants. And finally I do not understand why there has to be…
I don't think what you're arguing would be a problem. From the article: "Only when a file is shared from user-to-user (or with the Internet at large) does the DMCA check system come into play" "Some thought the original file was deleted from the user’s Dropbox — that’s not the case, either. Dropbox just blocks the file from being shared." Personally I think cloud services are super convenient and the downside for mos…
My answer is in other thread, but in short my comment does apply even to sharing.
Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#33Yet another reason not to use cloud services. For start dropbox is infrastructure provider and they have no right to snoop inside your files. If they start blocking stuff at their own will they are judge and executor. Secondly there is lot of potential for abuse. Hacker could sneak hash collision into their database and essentially censor-ship any document he wants. And finally I do not understand why there has to be…
"For start dropbox is infrastructure provider and they have no right to snoop inside your files."
Uh sure they do. Both legally and morally. It's their servers! Their right to snoop files stored on their servers is quite strong. Your right to store files on someone else's servers is zero. If you would like to pay someone to store your stuff on their servers that is a business deal which can be arranged and the fine print can be negotiated between the two private parties.
Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#34I've seen a lot of outrage about this on Twitter, what annoys me most is that these people who are outraged for the most part consider piracy to be acceptable. Then when a company tries to enforce copyright law and protect the rights of the content owners they go on a tirade that their personal privacy is being breached. I know that the rights holders haven't been blameless in their history but piracy is still wrong…
Would you please zip content of your hard-drive and uploaded it on dropbox? Also give me password from your gmail. I want to check if there is no illegal copy of my work in there.
Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#35I've seen a lot of outrage about this on Twitter, what annoys me most is that these people who are outraged for the most part consider piracy to be acceptable. Then when a company tries to enforce copyright law and protect the rights of the content owners they go on a tirade that their personal privacy is being breached. I know that the rights holders haven't been blameless in their history but piracy is still wrong…
Although I'm not one of the outraged, I think this sentence from the article talks about two very different situations:
> Only when a file is shared from user-to-user (or with the Internet at large) does the DMCA check system come into play.
Doing a DMCA takedown on a broadcast share with the whole internet? OK. Fine.
Doing it on a share with a specific other user? Not OK. Bad.
IANAL, but: There are limited exceptions such as fair use. For example if a teacher were sharing copyrighted work with a student or another teacher, that could be appropriate. I think it is inappropriate for Dropbox to prevent an appropriate share like this. Their ToS may allow them to do so, but I'm saying they ought not to do so. I think that's taking it too far.
Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#36Yet another reason not to use cloud services. For start dropbox is infrastructure provider and they have no right to snoop inside your files. If they start blocking stuff at their own will they are judge and executor. Secondly there is lot of potential for abuse. Hacker could sneak hash collision into their database and essentially censor-ship any document he wants. And finally I do not understand why there has to be…
"For start dropbox is infrastructure provider and they have no right to snoop inside your files." Uh sure they do. Both legally and morally. It's their servers! Their right to snoop files stored on their servers is quite strong. Your right to store files on someone else's servers is zero. If you would like to pay someone to store your stuff on their servers that is a business deal which can be arranged and the fine p…
But it is not their data...
Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#37Imagine to rely on a storage service that decides wether you may have a certain file. Not even once.
Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#38Yet another reason not to use cloud services. For start dropbox is infrastructure provider and they have no right to snoop inside your files. If they start blocking stuff at their own will they are judge and executor. Secondly there is lot of potential for abuse. Hacker could sneak hash collision into their database and essentially censor-ship any document he wants. And finally I do not understand why there has to be…
You could also just encrypt before uploading.
you could just flip a single bit before uploading
Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#39Maybe I'm being daft here, but why don't would-be file-sharers just encrypt files and send their friends passwords along with the links? Neither the provider nor the copyright holders would be able to tell who was sharing what, unless they monitored IM, email etc.. Of course it does seem that anyone can abuse the DMCA with impunity, so strictly speaking this wouldn't stop the "notice and takedown" actions. It would h…
Yeah, anyone can easily modify a file so it doesn't match the blacklisted hash and share it with their friends. Once you start sharing it with millions of people across the internet though, the copyright holder is likely to find out about and issue another DMCA takedown. So this is a system that doesn't prevent small scale sharing, but might be somewhat successful at preventing large scale infringement.
Re: How Dropbox Knows When You’re Sharing Copyrighted Stuff
#40Yet another reason not to use cloud services. For start dropbox is infrastructure provider and they have no right to snoop inside your files. If they start blocking stuff at their own will they are judge and executor. Secondly there is lot of potential for abuse. Hacker could sneak hash collision into their database and essentially censor-ship any document he wants. And finally I do not understand why there has to be…
> they have no right to snoop inside your files
The do. Read the TOS, it's written in perfectly understandable english. If you accepted them, then you have nothing to say.