There is an HyperCard inspired tool that is very similar and works on Mac OS X, Windows, Linux and is able to deploy to all those platforms plus Android and iOS.
Its a wonderful tool and very easy to learn. It is also GPL.
Hypercard reimagined – an iOS app maker and private app store
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#32As someone how doesn't know what hypercard is, I have a hard time understanding what this is. Maybe a couple of concrete use case at the top of the webpage would be helpful?
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#33Is there something like this for kids? Been teaching my kids to program and I cant find one easy enough to use (ages 5-9) outside of PPT (yes, I consider slide transitions programming). Scratch is ok but its not fun enough for them or maybe too advanced.
I don't have a direct answer for you (still researching), but if you haven't read Mindstorms by Seymour Papert [1], I highly recommend it. It's generally about how computing can help kids learn problem solving in a variety of contexts, including several bits about the LOGO programming language. It's from '88, so it is definitely dated, but many of the concepts are pretty timeless. [1] http://www.amazon.com/Mindstorms…
You might also find the free community edition of LiveCode[1] handy. At a glance, looks very much like HyperCard. There is also Microsoft's Project Sienna[2] if you are on Windows 8.
[1] http://livecode.com/download/ [2] http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/microsoft-projec...
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#34This looks interesting to me, but doesn't Apple hate apps that are too much like the App Store? The Private App Store description seems like it would make it a target for the ban hammer.
Yyyyup. I'd only give these guys money if "AppDrop" isn't part of the value proposition for you. (It isn't for me! An app toolkit that works like HC sounds fantastic - I wish they weren't muddying the waters with this app-store business.)
I wouldn't mind being able to send apps to my friends and everything without having to pay another amount to Apple for a developer account. But I don't think it's going to happen.
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#35There is an HyperCard inspired tool that is very similar and works on Mac OS X, Windows, Linux and is able to deploy to all those platforms plus Android and iOS. Its a wonderful tool and very easy to learn. It is also GPL. http://livecode.com
The only license I see on the LiveCode site is at http://livecode.com/LiveCode-EULA/ and that specifically mentions that it's not GPL-compatible.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't disagree re the average Joe, but as a semi-technical Joe without the chops to really code this is exciting. I'd like to see more non-game demos to better appreciate the scope, but SalesForce integration screams small and medium business use-cases.
The allegory to HyperCard is interesting as HyperCard had its own programming language, HyperTalk. Same with Macromedia Director, which also had Lingo (which was similar to HyperTalk). I never considered those apps as "no programming required" but more like "less programming required"
I agree with you. As someone who started 'programming' with Lingo it was easy to build some great products with minimal knowledge. That I then taught myself to program, using Perl initially, is an aside but I would not have done it without using Lingo first
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yyyyup. I'd only give these guys money if "AppDrop" isn't part of the value proposition for you. (It isn't for me! An app toolkit that works like HC sounds fantastic - I wish they weren't muddying the waters with this app-store business.)
I wouldn't mind being able to send apps to my friends and everything without having to pay another amount to Apple for a developer account. But I don't think it's going to happen.
It's certainly a bit of a subversive concept. Personally I think it's about time that the app distribution model was updated to allow people to share apps with each other. I think the idea here is to add a separate, small, side-distribution channel that you can use to send apps to friends and testers. Once you're done you can certainly market them in the Apple app store.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wouldn't mind being able to send apps to my friends and everything without having to pay another amount to Apple for a developer account. But I don't think it's going to happen.
It's certainly a bit of a subversive concept. Personally I think it's about time that the app distribution model was updated to allow people to share apps with each other. I think the idea here is to add a separate, small, side-distribution channel that you can use to send apps to friends and testers. Once you're done you can certainly market them in the Apple app store.
I think that would be fine with Apple as long as were only able to open apps sent to you, and there's no price attached.
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#39This looks interesting to me, but doesn't Apple hate apps that are too much like the App Store? The Private App Store description seems like it would make it a target for the ban hammer.
One of the PencilCase devs here, thanks for your question.
We've already been using AppDrop with clients and it's been great for them to distribute apps to their own users.
All price levels get access to AppDrop Community which lets you easily share your creations with a link. The Corporate and Founding Partner levels will also get their very own, configurable custom-branded PencilCase AppDrop store.
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#40unless this is programmable in javascript, how is it allowed by apple? and if it is javascript, then it's missing a key feature of hypercard that made it accessible, hypertalk. here's another hypercard inspired app: http://infinitecanvassuite.com/
Hi there, I'm one of the PencilCase devs that worked on the JS engine. The easiest way to get started with PencilCase is using events and actions in the GUI, no programming required. If you want more control you can program in JavaScript as well with access to all of the objects on your cards, web requests, etc. You get the best of both worlds.