why should time warner own the last mile? It should be owned by the homeowners.
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When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?
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Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think they do: http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/
From what I can tell, edge caching occurs on AWS as well. http://techblog.netflix.com/2013/06/announcing-zuul-edge-ser... http://techblog.netflix.com/2012/01/ephemeral-volatile-cachi...
I work at netflix.
zuul is used by the netflix API. It's not a cache. It's a request router.
EVCache is used internally for ephemeral systems data - things that would frequently go into mysql or cassandra but don't really need crash persistence.
Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?
#33I've always seen local governments as the root cause of "last mile" providers' ability to turn their customers into the product. Why haven't elected officials made more stringent demands upon the companies given monopoly (or at best duopoly) rights to convey bits to and from my home? I have a condo in Chicago and was delighted to learn that a company was offering our building last mile connectivity via microwave alon…
With regards to netflix, it's not always the last mile that's the problem.
Specifically, Netflix's ISP has an agreement with your ISP, which says essentially "You know what? We send and receive a lot of data. How about I won't charge you for your data travelling across my network, and you don't charge me for my data on your network." But then Netflix's ISP transmits enormous amounts of bandwidth, and your ISP doesn't really get to take an equal advantage of that reciprocal deal.
It's actually about peering agreements between ISPs. Your ISP wants Netflix's ISP to foot the bill for the fact that their reciprocal agreement is statistically just one-sided.
Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?
#34Who pays? The same person who pays for the food to go the "last mile" from the restaurant kitchen to the table - THE CUSTOMER...
The ISPs appear to be confused about who it is that's paying them for a pipe. I'll offer them a hint: it's the people you send those rate increase notices to every 12 months.
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#35I've always seen local governments as the root cause of "last mile" providers' ability to turn their customers into the product. Why haven't elected officials made more stringent demands upon the companies given monopoly (or at best duopoly) rights to convey bits to and from my home? I have a condo in Chicago and was delighted to learn that a company was offering our building last mile connectivity via microwave alon…
In my experience, nothing stops a facilities provider from serving whomever they like. Video franchises--which don't apply to data service in most states--are almost always non-exclusive. For example, in Seattle, the dominant provider (Comcast) has a franchise that specifically says it is not the sole property of Comcast. Another company, Wave Broadband, also has a franchise to serve the city but only serves specific portions of it. Meanwhile, companies like Condo Internet are free to provide gigabit service to whomever they like, so they serve only the buildings that are the most profitable.
The biggest problem is that last-mile is a very, very, very expensive proposition. Ask Verizon. Their former CEO, Ivan Seidenberg, learned that the hard way. Digging up streets, attaching to poles, and plopping down equipment all costs a lot of money. It also, in the case of cabinet-sized telco equipment, can really irk the neighbors.
Ultimately, if we want real competition for more than just high-end condominiums, we need to start treating physical plant connections like roads, power lines, and water pipes: a central, neutral authority builds them for the benefit of a specific geographical area and then all comers are allowed to use them. (No, HOAs, building your own coax network and then having some cut-rate third-tier ISP become the exclusive owner of those wires doesn't count. That's not competition, either.)
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#36I've always seen local governments as the root cause of "last mile" providers' ability to turn their customers into the product. Why haven't elected officials made more stringent demands upon the companies given monopoly (or at best duopoly) rights to convey bits to and from my home? I have a condo in Chicago and was delighted to learn that a company was offering our building last mile connectivity via microwave alon…
With regards to netflix, it's not always the last mile that's the problem. Specifically, Netflix's ISP has an agreement with your ISP, which says essentially "You know what? We send and receive a lot of data. How about I won't charge you for your data travelling across my network, and you don't charge me for my data on your network." But then Netflix's ISP transmits enormous amounts of bandwidth, and your ISP doesn't…
The customers of the ISPs are the ones who obtain value and demand fast delivery of Netflix. The bandwidth from Netflix is something that can't really be avoided so it is advantageous for both the ISP and Netflix for the ISPs for cache the content and use Netflix's Open Connect CDN or whatever it's called.
The the ISPs don't deliver and throttle Netflix's bandwidth and it's noticeable to the customer then hopefully the customer has the option of going to another ISP.
Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Homeowners are responsible for maintenance of many things, including things subject to assorted laws and regulations. Indeed, they can be subjected to FCC enforcement action simply for turning on an common store-bought electrical device, such as a fan or TV.
Sure, but those things don't require digging up wires blocks away from your home. Or mounting up on a telephone pole to fix a downed line, as would be the case with my home.
HOAs often manage such things. Or, where sanity intervenes, local government. The real point is that private entities shouldn't have control of basic infrastructure.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sure there are companies who would provide that service without requiring ownership
Yes, and they could even rent you the modem to use with the service! /sarcasm That's basically an ISP. You pay someone to make sure you stay connected. Then they become corrupt and try to find new ways to make more money on the deal.
Not really no, since you break up the 'pipeline' to be owned by multiple entities. Replacing one entity in said pipeline is easier if each of them controls a smaller chunk of the pipeline.
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#39This is just ridiculous on so many levels.
So, should we start debating whether UPS should pay for roads directly in each city?
Are our roads going to start being "content aware" & extorting delivery service vendors?
Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?
#40I wonder what would happen if netflix called their bluff?
People all of a sudden start to notice that House Of Cards plays more smoothly over their 4G cell connection than their expensive cable connection, and how does Time Warner explain that?