Live data from Hacker News

Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

ritetag.com

31–40 of 44 posts

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#31
post #3

This is a cool idea, but can someone explain why this requires the following Twitter permissions? - Update your profile. - Post Tweets for you. - Access your direct messages. In general I'm at loss why so many apps require so many permissions. They must lose a ton of customers from this. Anyone care to explain? Is it just a spam app meant to create a botnet or what?

Hi, I am a co-founder of RiteTag. Don't worry we are not any spam bot. But unfurtunately, Twitter has only 3 types of permissions: 1) Read 2) Write 3) Direct messages We cannot go only for Read because we need to allow users to sent and schedule tweets via RiteTag. But we do not send anything that user hasn't manually approved. Write permission goes automatically with Update your profile even though we don't use it a…

Regarding not wanting to turn off the DM permission in order to avoid a disruption to 7000 users, as the DM permission is a disquieting thing that will prompt complaints as this gains popularity and 7000 isn't that high a number, you might want to just rip the band aid off and get it over with now..

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#32

This sounded really helpful, then I tried to use it and ended up with this: http://i.imgur.com/LsPHVd6.png Derp.

RiteTag shows associated hashtags that are often used with your query. We didn't make that up. That's what people really use.

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#33
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I am a co-founder of RiteTag. Don't worry we are not any spam bot. But unfurtunately, Twitter has only 3 types of permissions: 1) Read 2) Write 3) Direct messages We cannot go only for Read because we need to allow users to sent and schedule tweets via RiteTag. But we do not send anything that user hasn't manually approved. Write permission goes automatically with Update your profile even though we don't use it a…

Regarding not wanting to turn off the DM permission in order to avoid a disruption to 7000 users, as the DM permission is a disquieting thing that will prompt complaints as this gains popularity and 7000 isn't that high a number, you might want to just rip the band aid off and get it over with now..

Founder of RiteTag here, and always available @osakasaul in Twitter (Saul Fleischman). FWIW, in regards to 7K users not being a high number, it took us 25 months to get to 7K users. Many signed up well over a year ago. Asking them all to remove permission in Twitter settings and then auth in again, we'd lose so many people who are not used to going into Twitter settings, and would simply go away. But thank you very much for the feedback - and also, a worthwhile opinion on the problem with Twitter permissions.

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#34
post #2

Do people actually watch hashtags that aren't event specific?

My thoughts exactly. They always look a bit #desperate #tryingtoohard #inauthentic PLEASE RT!!!

Okay, when people want to be #ironic or don't care about reaching beyond their followers, we probably don't have much for them. Still, if they want to track hashtags associated with a topic, product, event, brand or hashtag they know, our Alerts are a must.

But for those actually making money or waves in Twitter, people actually want to stop guessing, and go with our grading.

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#35
post #2

Do people actually watch hashtags that aren't event specific?

I've recently joined RiteTag on their PR/Marketing team, and I understand where you're coming from. Many users on Twitter use it primarily to connect with friends, however, there are also countless users that work in PR/Marketing and other sectors that would have a need to connect with their customers as well as reaching to a larger audience. Since you can also search hashtags now on Google, keeping track of hashtags related to your topic of interest can be helpful!

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#36
post #29

I clicked around a few pages and couldn't see anywhere which explained what the different colours mean.

I apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for the feedback. I'll link you to two of our blogposts that explain a lot of the RiteTag functions.

Pink is "overused", Blue is "good" and Green is "Great". The blogposts will explain more of our functionality!

http://ritetag.com/hashtag-academy/workshop-2 http://ritetag.com/hashtag-academy/hashtag-virality-measurem...

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#37
post #26

You can also look up the hashtag and check traffic there. If there is a tweet every 2s => too much traffic to get discovered. If there is a tweet only every 30min => chance high. Don't get why I would pay $15+ for such a service.

One of our goals is to make it easy for our users. It will reduce the amount of time spent on evaluating hashtags and guesswork. We are also integrated in places other than Twitter, such as Hootsuite, SocialOomph and Buffer. We have functions other than checking hashtag traffic where we allow you to schedule tweets, check for associated hashtags, and many more.

You can try out our service for free first to further evaluate the value of RiteTag. I hope you will reconsider!

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#38
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My thought (as a non techie) is that it's just easier to ask for everything. Need to use an open source library in building your codebase? No need to analyse everything to see which permissions it does or doesn't impinge upon. Want to add a new feature down the track? No need to consider whether it changes the user permissions. And I'd be surprised how many people are turned off by the number of permissions - I'll al…

My thought (as a developer) is that it's just lazier (and worse for the product) to ask for everything. The more permissions you ask for, the less users you'll get. For example, Facebook blatantly recommends that app developers ask for only the bare minimum of permissions on the initial app engagement. They cite numbers showing that click-through rate falls off precipitously once users see more than a few permissions…

Sure, it's a turn-off. However, people are learning that APIs and social network auth policies confine devs; it's a neccasary evil. We're blessed by a plethora of press that evidences people overlooking the Twitter auth thing and signing up nevertheless.

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks a lot! We will check the Firefox issues and learn more about color-blindness to make RiteTag more accessible. Regarding the cheaper plan, we'll need to think it through as small amounts are not profitable due fixed costs per transaction.

Obligatory Bitcoin reference... Check out integrating with Coinbase?

Founder, here. Few ask for bitcoin for payment, but the bigger truth is that when we need to show investors that people see value, we actually can't risk being told "right. people paid you with something that cost them nada to acquire." This is not my stance on bitcoin, but we do need to respect the big wigs' decision-leading standpoints.

Re: Maximize your tweet's chance of discovery via hashtags

#40
post #16
post #3

This is a cool idea, but can someone explain why this requires the following Twitter permissions? - Update your profile. - Post Tweets for you. - Access your direct messages. In general I'm at loss why so many apps require so many permissions. They must lose a ton of customers from this. Anyone care to explain? Is it just a spam app meant to create a botnet or what?

After I saw "Access your direct messages." I cancelled my signup & uninstalled the browser extension. That permission is a bit too steep for me.

FWIW, founder here, and let me offer you a personal tour. I'd be happy to screen-share, show you my own RiteTag account, my stats, what I do with RiteTag and hashtags in general. I'm sure our team would benefit from your thoughts. Thanks, in advance.
Post reply on HN