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Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

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Post by rkuykendall-com »

incision wrote: post #20

I'm a bit surprised at the amount of positive response. This impresses me as rather obnoxious, probably effective, but obnoxious. Something between the pop-over ad and the ever-present network TV promotional crawl brought to the masses.

I see your point, but I see it as providing context to the links. This is especially useful on Twitter where there is so little room for commentary.

The message is not showing up for no reason. You clicked a link from someone you follow, because you wanted to usually BECAUSE of how that content relates to them.

Sure, if you just change every link you send out to a link with an ad at the bottom that is bad. But I see no problem with adding context and commentary to a link someone is sharing on social media for that exact reason.

Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

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Post by [deleted] »

rkuykendall-com wrote: post #31
incision wrote: post #20

I'm a bit surprised at the amount of positive response. This impresses me as rather obnoxious, probably effective, but obnoxious. Something between the pop-over ad and the ever-present network TV promotional crawl brought to the masses.

I see your point, but I see it as providing context to the links. This is especially useful on Twitter where there is so little room for commentary. The message is not showing up for no reason. You clicked a link from someone you follow, because you wanted to usually BECAUSE of how that content relates to them. Sure, if you just change every link you send out to a link with an ad at the bottom that is bad. But I see…

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Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

#33

Post by ramayac »

[deleted] wrote: post #16
deft wrote: post #7

This is a really great idea although slightly evil. Could be quite useful though. Nice job!

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Hello!, I have a few suggestions:

* This is linked to Twitter ID/Profile right? then why not add some ratio of following/followers to avoid spammy Snips?

* Add a "flag" for reporting unapropiated Snips.

I like the idea, it's devilishly clever.

EDIT: format.

Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

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Post by [deleted] »

ramayac wrote: post #33
[deleted] wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Hello!, I have a few suggestions: * This is linked to Twitter ID/Profile right? then why not add some ratio of following/followers to avoid spammy Snips? * Add a "flag" for reporting unapropiated Snips. I like the idea, it's devilishly clever. EDIT: format.

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Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

#35

Post by opendais »

incision wrote: post #20

I'm a bit surprised at the amount of positive response. This impresses me as rather obnoxious, probably effective, but obnoxious. Something between the pop-over ad and the ever-present network TV promotional crawl brought to the masses.

I'm not. Marketing has a purpose like anything else. I'm more surprised and concerned by how few people commented on the fact it is relying on sites being vulnerable to clickjacking to function.

Maybe I'm just overly paranoid?

Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

#36

Post by wingerlang »

laoba wrote: post #14
Sae5waip wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can not be used with good intentions. There is never any advantage for the users who click on the links.

Sure it can be. What if I want the people I shared the link with to see my take on an article or something of the sort. Thinking in absolutes is never a good thing. Maybe -you- could never do anything good with it.

> Thinking in absolutes is never a good thing.

Isn't this an absolute though?

Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

#37

Post by eliot_sykes »

I'm not sure about this. Mmm. My gut feeling is I wouldn't feel too cool about using it, and I'd guess that if you gave news sites the chance to opt-in to being framed, not many would take Snip.ly up on it.

But I might be missing the full picture, and perhaps I'm just not the target audience.

Good luck to Snip.ly, but for developers who would want to stop this kind of thing from happening on their own sites, OWASP has a clickjacking defense cheat sheet:

https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Clickjacking_Defense_Cheat_S...

Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

#38

Post by Noxchi »

Sae5waip wrote: post #26
laoba wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it can be. What if I want the people I shared the link with to see my take on an article or something of the sort. Thinking in absolutes is never a good thing. Maybe -you- could never do anything good with it.

Seriously? a) You'd just write your take next to the link, instead of hiding it behind. Your example is far-fetched. b) This is obviously meant for ads. (And the examples on their landing page make that perfectly clear.) Quote: "You can essentially advertise on any website for free!"

herp derp ads r bad!!1

You don't know what you're talking about. If I follow someone on twitter, I want to know what they are up to. If someone has an event or product, or something else they think is relevant to the article, then I want to know.

Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

#39

Post by laoba »

Sae5waip wrote: post #26
laoba wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it can be. What if I want the people I shared the link with to see my take on an article or something of the sort. Thinking in absolutes is never a good thing. Maybe -you- could never do anything good with it.

Seriously? a) You'd just write your take next to the link, instead of hiding it behind. Your example is far-fetched. b) This is obviously meant for ads. (And the examples on their landing page make that perfectly clear.) Quote: "You can essentially advertise on any website for free!"

A) I share most of the content I find on twitter, which is very limited. Again, you have some idea of I am going to be evil with it.

B) That's cool that some of the uses are advertising, but I'm not going to. I'm not trying to sell some product.

Re: Show HN: Snip.ly, the link shortener that drives conversion

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Post by [deleted] »

eliot_sykes wrote: post #37

I'm not sure about this. Mmm. My gut feeling is I wouldn't feel too cool about using it, and I'd guess that if you gave news sites the chance to opt-in to being framed, not many would take Snip.ly up on it. But I might be missing the full picture, and perhaps I'm just not the target audience. Good luck to Snip.ly, but for developers who would want to stop this kind of thing from happening on their own sites, OWASP ha…

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