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Zuckerberg, Musk Invest in Artificial-Intelligence Company Vicarious

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Re: Zuckerberg, Musk Invest in Artificial-Intelligence Company Vicarious

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Post by ScottBurson »

wikiburner wrote: post #15

Does anyone know why Dileep George left Numenta? Wasn't he a co-founder there with Jeff Hawkins? Is there much difference between the goals of Vicarious and Numenta?

I can only speculate, but as you may recall, Numenta abandoned their original, belief-propagation-based design, replacing it with a new one based on sparse distributed memory. Dileep had done a lot of work on the original design, and I recall reading that's what Vicarious is using, having licensed it from Numenta. So I think you can put it down to a difference in technical direction between Dileep and Jeff. As far as I know, the split was amicable.

Re: Zuckerberg, Musk Invest in Artificial-Intelligence Company Vicarious

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Post by otoburb »

ScottBurson wrote: post #31
wikiburner wrote: post #15

Does anyone know why Dileep George left Numenta? Wasn't he a co-founder there with Jeff Hawkins? Is there much difference between the goals of Vicarious and Numenta?

I can only speculate, but as you may recall, Numenta abandoned their original, belief-propagation-based design, replacing it with a new one based on sparse distributed memory. Dileep had done a lot of work on the original design, and I recall reading that's what Vicarious is using, having licensed it from Numenta. So I think you can put it down to a difference in technical direction between Dileep and Jeff. As far as…

Their marketing and fund-raising approaches also seem to be completely different. I think this was good for both of them, especially if Dileep is licensing from Numenta.

Win-win scenario.

Re: Zuckerberg, Musk Invest in Artificial-Intelligence Company Vicarious

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Post by netcan »

jaibot wrote: post #24
pweissbrod wrote: post #16

"Phoenix hopes that, eventually, Vicarious’s computers will learn to how to cure diseases, create cheap, renewable energy, and perform the jobs that employ most human beings." This line made me laugh. Which of the three goals is the most likely and desired outcome? (I'll give you a hint, it isnt curing diseases or finding energy) That's like saying: 'my robots will cure cancer, bring world peace and replace most manu…

Agricultural technology already replaced most manual human jobs (from the era when most human jobs were agricultural). Humans found other things to do, and we found ways to use the surplus. If it gets to the point where there isn't any unskilled labor left to do, we can always choose as a society to vastly expand the welfare state and divvy up at least part of the accumulated surplus to everyone. We have already move…

"vastly expand the welfare state and divvy up at least part of the accumulated surplus to everyone"

That's a technology we haven't had much luck with so far. We've had economies where "distribution" was related to direct wealth creation (make a sandwich and eat it myself), property & labour (you make a sandwich with my bread,we eat half each), thievery (gimme your sandwich). We've done sharing in small groups, that may have been the paleo-economy. We've doe bits of charity welfarism, redistribution and centralization but never really succeeded at making those work well at a large scale, especially for those supposed to be protected by it.

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