Colors, spacing, swipe translations are all very solid. While a majority of everyone else here complains about pixels and the right words to use, I'd like to congratulate you on this.
Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
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Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
The language isn't the issue, the frameworks and libraries are. You're going to have to spend your valuable expert time sorting those out too. That's the bulk of it. If your truly an expert at c# then learning objective-c isn't much of a challenge. At least learning the amount you need to build apps.
The advantage of using a single language is that, for each single app in all the three store, you have to change a single codebase and not to make 3 different changes in 3 different codebases just because each of them require its own language (and then its own specific libraries). So you have surely to spend the time to sort the libraries, but it is a one-time problem. After it, you can just use them without problem…
Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#33- When I scrolled the list items where my thumb was scrolling started lighting up
- When I clicked a button nothing happened, I had to click a few times repeatedly before it changed screens and even then it didn't feel like I clicked
- When I clicked back nothing happened, and after a couple more tries I saw it was working and then changed the page. That might could be solved with something like fastclick.
I would love a tool like this but it has to be damn near perfect for me to be able to consider it with my team.
EDIT: After playing with it a little more I found it gets a little better. The big issue is lag and fluidness for me. It's got to be very responsive to touch and movements and not have any lag or choppiness.
Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#34The limit we've run into with iOS is not getting a good looking UI. Rather it's the performance of Javascript in Safari. We have a fairly large one page webapp that looks great on iOS however the performance is an order of magnitude slower on an iPad than Chrome on an old laptop.
My understanding is that only Safari gets access to Nitro (Nitro : Apple :: V8 : Google). Web Views inside native apps don't get access to Nitro. Even web apps that you save to your home screen don't get access to the faster rendering engine. This is apparently for security reasons. I think it's one of the biggest barriers to web apps being competitive on iOS. (The other is that there really isn't a good installation…
Unfortunately the lack of competition on mobile makes innovation very slow, there's no motivation to make rapid improvements.
Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#35The limit we've run into with iOS is not getting a good looking UI. Rather it's the performance of Javascript in Safari. We have a fairly large one page webapp that looks great on iOS however the performance is an order of magnitude slower on an iPad than Chrome on an old laptop.
My understanding is that only Safari gets access to Nitro (Nitro : Apple :: V8 : Google). Web Views inside native apps don't get access to Nitro. Even web apps that you save to your home screen don't get access to the faster rendering engine. This is apparently for security reasons. I think it's one of the biggest barriers to web apps being competitive on iOS. (The other is that there really isn't a good installation…
it would be interesting if they elaborate on those...
Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
My understanding is that only Safari gets access to Nitro (Nitro : Apple :: V8 : Google). Web Views inside native apps don't get access to Nitro. Even web apps that you save to your home screen don't get access to the faster rendering engine. This is apparently for security reasons. I think it's one of the biggest barriers to web apps being competitive on iOS. (The other is that there really isn't a good installation…
They made poor initial design decisions which effectively put a speed limit on JavaScript apps. Currently they are not motivated to do the probably very difficult work it would take to fix the problem, that's why it's so important that the Chrome team gets its shit together and makes the speed of Chrome Android awesome (which, to their credit, is a goal for this year). Unfortunately the lack of competition on mobile…
Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#37The limit we've run into with iOS is not getting a good looking UI. Rather it's the performance of Javascript in Safari. We have a fairly large one page webapp that looks great on iOS however the performance is an order of magnitude slower on an iPad than Chrome on an old laptop.
Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
They made poor initial design decisions which effectively put a speed limit on JavaScript apps. Currently they are not motivated to do the probably very difficult work it would take to fix the problem, that's why it's so important that the Chrome team gets its shit together and makes the speed of Chrome Android awesome (which, to their credit, is a goal for this year). Unfortunately the lack of competition on mobile…
It's really easy to "fix the problem". There have been fixes on Jailbroken devices for years.
Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#39I'm not knocking this or any particular xxxx-to-mobile platform, but as a native iOS and android developer, I would highly recommend just learning the native languages and frameworks. First, you have the absolute most control you will ever have over your application. This may not be true when a particular tool becomes popular, say at the release of a new tool, but this definitely shows up as time progresses. Who know…
With Xamarian being acquired by Microsoft, I'm really hoping to NOT have to learn native android / ios / windows phone development. I don't have time for that, and I'm already an expert in C#.
Re: Framework 7 – Building native iOS apps in HTML5
#40"Building native iOS apps in HTML5". You're building them in HTML5, to look like iOS7, not exactly native now is it? This is the same thing as making a theme for jQuery Mobile.
I clicked on this hoping to download something that converts my HTML5 app to native code, but then I clicked this, and immediately had severe performance issues on iOS7, iPhone 5S.
I really hope this does not take off, and if it does, I hope they fix the performance ASAP.
Not even REMOTELY close to native performance, look, or feel.