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Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:03 PM UTC

jliechti1 wrote: post #25

egeozcan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting depressed by these kind of news. My votes do not seem to change anything and I feel hopeless. I can't find anything meaningful to say and I just want to ignore the whole situation but keeping silent just feels wrong.

Don't despair completely. Not Internet related, but there are some large students going on in Taiwan right now [0] based on concerns on how a new trade agreement with China was passed. The bill was passed in a legal way, but many of the discussions around it were behind closed doors and the Taiwanese people feel that the government is no longer "representing the people." The response against has been pretty described…

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Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by devindotcom » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:04 PM UTC

I just tried pinging twitter with this tool, the turkey server seems to work:

http://cloudmonitor.ca.com/en/ping.php?vtt=1395356295&vargho...

but china, egypt, and interestingly panama don't. I'd love to report on this but it's hard to prove this kind of thing. any ideas? (i'm also contacting twitter)

edit: here's my story -

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-blocked-nat...

please let me know if you see anything wrong. (we're aware of the turkish character issues...sigh)

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by transitionality » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:06 PM UTC

thisiswrong wrote: post #19

Then use Twister [1]. Twister is NSA-proof, censorship reistant, and based on the bitcoin protocol. [1] http://twister.net.co/

It is nontrivial to switch millions of people over to a completely new platform and reestablish the literally billions of connections among them, nor is Twister's infrastructure ready to handle the influx.

For now, Twitter over VPN/TOR is the only workable solution.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by transitionality » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:09 PM UTC

kayman wrote: post #15

sad to see sites being blocked. Can you use Tor to get around this restriction?

Technically, yes. Usability-wise, no. Most Turkish internet users are mobile-based, anyway.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by mrtksn » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:10 PM UTC

devindotcom wrote: post #32

I just tried pinging twitter with this tool, the turkey server seems to work: http://cloudmonitor.ca.com/en/ping.php?vtt=1395356295&vargho... but china, egypt, and interestingly panama don't. I'd love to report on this but it's hard to prove this kind of thing. any ideas? (i'm also contacting twitter) edit: here's my story - http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-blocked-nat... please let me know if you see…

Hi, The method for blocking websites in Turkey is through ISP's DNS servers. So when you don't use a Turkish ISP DNS server you are all good with most of the blocked sites. Some websites, especially popular porn sites are blocked through the IP. In such cases you need a VPN or proxy.

The tool you are using to check Twitter servers probably don't use a Turkish DNS server.

If you don't believe, check the website status from the Informational Technology and Communication presidency of Turkey website: http://eekg.tib.gov.tr/

The court orders are displayed both in English and Turkish.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by egari » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:10 PM UTC

poulsbohemian wrote: post #24

I was there on business in 2010 and I said "man, this is a country on the move! We need to set up an office here." English is taught from early grades, there is good infrastructure in the western part of the country, a young, educated population with a relatively small domestic economy - great place to outsource and a bridge between europe and asia. Things have fallen apart so quickly since then - wouldn't touch it n…

it was an illusion. yes i am from istanbul.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by syscortech » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:11 PM UTC

We covered it, please share and help the users in Turkey. http://www.syscortech.net/twitter-is-blocked-in-turkey/

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by eknkc » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:11 PM UTC

devindotcom wrote: post #32

I just tried pinging twitter with this tool, the turkey server seems to work: http://cloudmonitor.ca.com/en/ping.php?vtt=1395356295&vargho... but china, egypt, and interestingly panama don't. I'd love to report on this but it's hard to prove this kind of thing. any ideas? (i'm also contacting twitter) edit: here's my story - http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-blocked-nat... please let me know if you see…

It is a DNS based block. If that server uses a custom dns or has different caching rules etc, it would not be affected from the block.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by devindotcom » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:14 PM UTC

mrtksn wrote: post #35

devindotcom wrote: post #32

I just tried pinging twitter with this tool, the turkey server seems to work: http://cloudmonitor.ca.com/en/ping.php?vtt=1395356295&vargho... but china, egypt, and interestingly panama don't. I'd love to report on this but it's hard to prove this kind of thing. any ideas? (i'm also contacting twitter) edit: here's my story - http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-blocked-nat... please let me know if you see…

Hi, The method for blocking websites in Turkey is through ISP's DNS servers. So when you don't use a Turkish ISP DNS server you are all good with most of the blocked sites. Some websites, especially popular porn sites are blocked through the IP. In such cases you need a VPN or proxy. The tool you are using to check Twitter servers probably don't use a Turkish DNS server. If you don't believe, check the website status…

Thanks for the information, I'll try to include this in my report.

Re: Twitter is blocked in Turkey

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Post by egeozcan » Thu, Mar 20, 2014, 11:14 PM UTC

guard-of-terra wrote: post #30

jliechti1 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't despair completely. Not Internet related, but there are some large students going on in Taiwan right now [0] based on concerns on how a new trade agreement with China was passed. The bill was passed in a legal way, but many of the discussions around it were behind closed doors and the Taiwanese people feel that the government is no longer "representing the people." The response against has been pretty described…

Don't want to discourage you but we had this "unprecedented, people who are normally not interested in politics are getting involved" thing in Moscow a few years ago and it all died out. Turns out they just sit in their office and pretend nothing happens. And it works unless you actively overthrow them. Of course they say Russians are a nation of slaves but there you go.

The same happened in Turkey last summer too. You might have heard, "the Gezi protests". Looking back, the whole thing just made everyone a bit more extreme on their views. Some government officials just ignored the situation while the prime minister went on a campaign to stop the so called "looters" (yes he did call the protesters that) from "disrespecting the public opinion". Now? It's a flame war between many groups, with some scandals here and there for what it seems to be entertainment only. Everyone, and I mean everyone -including me- seems to ignore everything opposed to what they believe. I try to be objective, but I can't. People believe in "stuff". I'm still getting amazed by how interested we are in believing in something and the lengths we can go just to keep our beliefs' integrity.