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Re: The MtGox 500

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Post by sillysaurus3 »

oscilloscope wrote: post #28
jimrandomh wrote: post #16

Users 1 and 15's charts make no sense - they have to be special system accounts of some sort. My guess is that #15 is the account that receives trading fees, and #1 represents MtGox itself (or some specific aspect of MtGox, such as its cold-storage). There're still a lot of points on these plots that don't make sense, though; generally they look like vertical stripes labelled as sets of small sell orders, both far be…

Each dot is a trade. I pulled the columns from the db we generated with the raw info of that one big trade, so you can see what the structure of the source data looks like. Removed the user id of the buyer, but it's trivial to find if you have the dataset. File|Trade_Id|Date|User_Id|Type|Currency|Bitcoins|Money|Money_JPY|Money_Fee|Bitcoin_Fee 2013-11_mtgox_japan.csv|1384974682548514|2013-11-20 19:11:22| *|buy|USD|100…

May I ask, where'd you get the dataset?

Re: The MtGox 500

#33

Post by poopsintub »

drakaal wrote: post #27
clarkm wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly did these charts lead you to that conclusion?

Look at several places the bots started binge buying when the price started to fall out.

What makes you think people wouldn't binge buy when the price started to fall out?

Re: The MtGox 500

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Post by oscilloscope »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #31
oscilloscope wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Each dot is a trade. I pulled the columns from the db we generated with the raw info of that one big trade, so you can see what the structure of the source data looks like. Removed the user id of the buyer, but it's trivial to find if you have the dataset. File|Trade_Id|Date|User_Id|Type|Currency|Bitcoins|Money|Money_JPY|Money_Fee|Bitcoin_Fee 2013-11_mtgox_japan.csv|1384974682548514|2013-11-20 19:11:22| *|buy|USD|100…

May I ask, where'd you get the dataset?

A torrent found on Reddit the day it was leaked. It looks like mods may have removed that thread:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zz9rw/a_message_fr...

If you find a copy, don't run the .exe file contained within. It contains malware.

Re: The MtGox 500

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Post by square1 »

1-45 is interesting when compared to 15. Others mentioned this may be a bug in data interpretation or a GOX account, but if you look at all of the high volume traders you can see horizontal striations that correlate with user15.

Re: The MtGox 500

#36

Post by drakaal »

poopsintub wrote: post #33
drakaal wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at several places the bots started binge buying when the price started to fall out.

What makes you think people wouldn't binge buy when the price started to fall out?

People react to news. They might binge buy, but they sleep, and they don't sell as often there after. The Bots were keeping the price steady by buying and selling. If not for the bots, the ups and downs would have been a lot "peakier"

Re: The MtGox 500

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Post by reeses »

krisdol wrote: post #25
reeses wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you used to be able to trade via dark pool in large amounts (at the time, that would be 5+ kbtc) to avoid upsetting the market price. Not sure if they still supported it at time of closure. This is actually rather scary. Enough people have logged data that these can be dereferenced despite the feeble attempt at depersonalization, but I guess the names will come out in the legal proceedings anyway, depending on j…

> depersonalization I think you're maybe looking for bowlderization or anonymization or something similar?

The problem I had with both those terms is that they're not anonymized (and unless the usernames are obscene, bowdlerization isn't really a good fit). With the other leaks, at least for the older accounts, a name can be associated with these charts. For the newer accounts or those that lay dormant for a few years before trading, I suspect those who have been logging the web socket and IRC traffic could create a correlation with an individual.

Anonymize is probably fine, but I want "reversible anonymization". :)

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