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Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by Jugurtha »

Good morning, UK...

I don't encourage that thing Google is doing, however, it's 2014 and it's only now the UK is doing something to go back from UKistan to the United Kingdom.

I'm from Algeria and the UK showed great hospitality to extremists calling for killing us from the foggy London streets. They allowed that in the name of democracy and freedom of speech. Easy being a democracy when what the extremists do isn't harming you.

It took the fhit to hit the san for them to wake up and do something about it.. How about freedom of speech now when terrorist actions are conducted on the UK soil?

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by EGreg »

vertex-four wrote: post #27
guylhem wrote: post #4

What if I don't agree with the UK government views on say freedom of speech? And why the UK government? What about giving that same power to the government of Afghanistan for example? From a utilitarian perspective, they could use that "superflagger status" to prevent the spread of videos that have lead to violence in the past. One simple example : http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/google-remove-riot-spa... Howev…

> What if I don't agree with the UK government views on say freedom of speech? Do as some are doing, and set up GNU MediaGoblin[0] on a server for yourself and friends. [0] http://mediagoblin.org/

How is MediaGoblin different than just NGiNX with extensions to handle streaming video and sound?

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by MichaelGG »

lazyjones wrote: post #19
r00fus wrote: post #7

"Google told the FT that while the Home Office had been given these new permissions, the company still retained the right to decide whether they ought to be removed or not. Google's own user policy on YouTube forbids content that incites hatred or violence." So what does this really mean? So Google ultimately decides, but the UK can "recommend"? Without seeing the process in practice, it's hard to say if this actuall…

Sounds like the RIAA / various large publishers are still more powerful than the Home Office and fighting copyright infringement is still more important than fighting terrorism, since they can reportedly take down videos directly (and have often done so).

It's only more important because copyright holders currently pose far more of a threat to YouTube than "terrorism". Which, as much as I dislike both subjects, seems about accurate.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by venomsnake »

slowmover wrote: post #10

David Cameron must have recently watched the first episode of Black Mirror.

Thanks a lot. I didn't knew the series existed. It is exactly what I need to watch.

By the synopsis - there is also a joke here about Cameron and pig with really low standards, but I cannot seem to find it.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by magicalist »

guylhem wrote: post #4

What if I don't agree with the UK government views on say freedom of speech? And why the UK government? What about giving that same power to the government of Afghanistan for example? From a utilitarian perspective, they could use that "superflagger status" to prevent the spread of videos that have lead to violence in the past. One simple example : http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/google-remove-riot-spa... Howev…

Lots of governments do have that ability[1]. The difference here seems to be that it wasn't required by law (instead, heavily pressured by the government), but it's also just the ability to flag, not to remove. We're going to have to see how that pans out in practice (as well as if they can remove things only in the UK, which is true of some of the takedowns mentioned in [1], e.g. "We received two requests and two court orders from regulatory agencies to remove 105 YouTube videos that contain clips of the movie, "Innocence of Muslims." We restricted videos from view in Egypt").

[1] http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/government...

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by delluminatus »

EGreg wrote: post #34
vertex-four wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What if I don't agree with the UK government views on say freedom of speech? Do as some are doing, and set up GNU MediaGoblin[0] on a server for yourself and friends. [0] http://mediagoblin.org/

How is MediaGoblin different than just NGiNX with extensions to handle streaming video and sound?

Best to think of it as a kind of CMS for multimedia. You can have multiple users on one instance, comments, public/private settings, etc.

Re: Google gives UK government “super flagger” status for YouTube?

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Post by torrent-of-ions »

guylhem wrote: post #4

What if I don't agree with the UK government views on say freedom of speech? And why the UK government? What about giving that same power to the government of Afghanistan for example? From a utilitarian perspective, they could use that "superflagger status" to prevent the spread of videos that have lead to violence in the past. One simple example : http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/google-remove-riot-spa... Howev…

> What if I don't agree with the UK government views on say freedom of speech?

Then don't use Youtube.

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