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Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

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Re: Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

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Right now we're a top 25 grossing iPhone game developer. The last AWS bill I saw was January's, a little under $200k. I'm not on the server team, so I don't know exactly what contributes most to it. But part of me really thinks it could be reduced!

If you've got Business or Enterprise support from AWS, look at their Trusted Advisor product. Its included, and does sanity checks for cost and security against all of the AWS resources you're using.

Re: Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

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The thing is there are many providers who can do the same and most of them will do it for less than half of this. Some less than 1/5th. I think they should move this to Digital Ocean and save $5000. The bias towards AWS for this type of application is ridiculous and a big waste of money.

Whenever anybody makes this type of statement, I'm alway interested in knowing if they've ever run a site with this type of traffic, and this many customers. In particular, have you ever run a site that consistently serves over 25 Terabytes of traffic/month, or have you worked with someone who has? I guarantee you that no company I have worked for in the last 15 years, could have ever run this type of infrastructure…

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Re: Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

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post #10

The thing is there are many providers who can do the same and most of them will do it for less than half of this. Some less than 1/5th. I think they should move this to Digital Ocean and save $5000. The bias towards AWS for this type of application is ridiculous and a big waste of money.

Digital Ocean doesn't provide a CDN. EC2 only account for 1.4k in the bill so I don't see how you would spare $5000.-

Bandwidth on DO is (worst case), $20.48/TB, so their 17TB usage would cost $348/month. A far cry from $5,000.

Re: Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

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post #10

The thing is there are many providers who can do the same and most of them will do it for less than half of this. Some less than 1/5th. I think they should move this to Digital Ocean and save $5000. The bias towards AWS for this type of application is ridiculous and a big waste of money.

Whenever anybody makes this type of statement, I'm alway interested in knowing if they've ever run a site with this type of traffic, and this many customers. In particular, have you ever run a site that consistently serves over 25 Terabytes of traffic/month, or have you worked with someone who has? I guarantee you that no company I have worked for in the last 15 years, could have ever run this type of infrastructure…

> I guarantee you that no company I have worked for in the last 15 years, could have ever run this type of infrastructure for $7K/month. Its absolutely amazing.

True, but lets not compare offerings of the past to now. There is still room for practical efficiency gains.

Re: Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Digital Ocean doesn't provide a CDN. EC2 only account for 1.4k in the bill so I don't see how you would spare $5000.-

Bandwidth on DO is (worst case), $20.48/TB, so their 17TB usage would cost $348/month. A far cry from $5,000.

You miss the point; bandwidth from a single source != CDN. Hosting without a CDN would be extremely slow for people that were far (hops) away from DO. CDN's solve this, and other issues.

Re: Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

#38
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While one could probably knock a couple thousand bucks off that if one cared to (which is probably penny wise and pound foolish but invariably comes up in HN discussions of hosting costs), the amazing thing is that hundreds of thousands of people worldwide are able to use core infrastructure which costs less than the fully-loaded cost of a single billing clerk in your local municipal water department.

What is funny is that Github is footing the bill for most package systems, which were likely inspired by ruby gems, yet Github itself was built with Ruby gems. I am pretty sure the hosting costs for homebrew/npm round to nil (I could be wrong).

Re: Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

#39

Right now we're a top 25 grossing iPhone game developer. The last AWS bill I saw was January's, a little under $200k. I'm not on the server team, so I don't know exactly what contributes most to it. But part of me really thinks it could be reduced!

The most interesting thing that I found about dealing with stuff at 6 figure+ scale per month on AWS was the un-advertised limits (nodes, provisioned volumes / total size, snapshots, elbs, etc) that you have to either hit, or extract from your account manager.

If anyone ever ends up doing something like this; ask them upfront!

Re: Rubygems.org AWS bill for Feb 2014 [pdf]

#40
With most of this being bandwidth costs, it seems like switching to a host like Digital Ocean would make more sense here. The bandwidth costs are a fraction of Amazon's in comparison.

As for the CDN, switching to something like Cloudflare might make more sense rather than relying on Cloudfront. At the least, there's a "US and EU only" option for edge locations to use which si considerably cheaper than the default option of all edge locations.

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