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Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

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Re: Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

#31
post #11

Wouldn't it be funny if malleability has confused MtGox about its own hot->cold->hot wallet transactions, and it really has way more coins than it knows? Then, when MtGox finally has someone with half a clue patch things & rescan, 700K BTC reappear, and they post on their homepage, "Nevvvvvermind – it was all a bad dream."

Interesting hypothesis. It reminds me of my childhood:

When I was a teenager, like many teenagers, I liked to drink. Unfortunately for me, my father disapproved of teenagers drinking; perhaps once every week or two he would count all of his beer bottles to ensure that I was not sneaking any. There were gaps in his accounting, but I never knew exactly when he would account for them.

What was I to do? I devised a simple scheme:

1) Steal a bottle of beer.

2) Drink i^W^W no no, hide it. Hide it in the back of the fridge, or in the pantry.

3) Wait two weeks. [If during step 3 the absence of the beer was discovered, goto step 3a. Otherwise goto step 4]

3a) "What are you talking about Pops, your beer is right here behind the radishes." [goto step 1]

4) Glug glug glug.

Re: Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

#32
post #20
post #11

Wouldn't it be funny if malleability has confused MtGox about its own hot->cold->hot wallet transactions, and it really has way more coins than it knows? Then, when MtGox finally has someone with half a clue patch things & rescan, 700K BTC reappear, and they post on their homepage, "Nevvvvvermind – it was all a bad dream."

have you seen the irc chat log with Mark Karpeles? it almost seems possible that that is exactly what has happened: [12:02] How much did you lose yourself? [12:04] Well, technically speaking it's not "lost" just yet, just temporarily unavailable [12:05] Well, how much is unavail for you? [12:06] I'm not even sure http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/179038-my-conversati...

Closing the conversation with a 9gag link. How professional.

Re: Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

#33
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

have you seen the irc chat log with Mark Karpeles? it almost seems possible that that is exactly what has happened: [12:02] How much did you lose yourself? [12:04] Well, technically speaking it's not "lost" just yet, just temporarily unavailable [12:05] Well, how much is unavail for you? [12:06] I'm not even sure http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/179038-my-conversati...

What does that even mean, Karpeles isn't making any sense.

Pretty sure he's not referring to the possibility of recovering any of the lost bitcoins, but to the plans from the crisis strategy doc to freeze all accounts, then start a new business at Gox.com and make it all back in profits over time. Not that those plans make any sense either.

Re: Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

#34
post #20
post #11

Wouldn't it be funny if malleability has confused MtGox about its own hot->cold->hot wallet transactions, and it really has way more coins than it knows? Then, when MtGox finally has someone with half a clue patch things & rescan, 700K BTC reappear, and they post on their homepage, "Nevvvvvermind – it was all a bad dream."

have you seen the irc chat log with Mark Karpeles? it almost seems possible that that is exactly what has happened: [12:02] How much did you lose yourself? [12:04] Well, technically speaking it's not "lost" just yet, just temporarily unavailable [12:05] Well, how much is unavail for you? [12:06] I'm not even sure http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/179038-my-conversati...

If you read the context, it's quite clear that he's only referencing his own bitcoins.

    [12:02]  How much did you lose yourself?
    [12:04]  Well, technically speaking it's not "lost" just yet, just temporarily unavailable
    [12:05]  Well, how much is unavail for you?
    [12:06]  I'm not even sure
    [12:06]  didn't check my wallet before pushing the site offline
That final line makes it very clear that he meant he didn't know how many BTC he had in MtGox and thus "lost". How you clipped it, it makes it sound like he might mean he doesn't know how many are temporarily unavailable on mtgox as a whole.

Re: Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

#35
post #5

Article without the paywall — http://archive.is/JWikk

It's pretty embarrassing that you can read most of the article with the paywall intact.

That's amazing. If I'd subscribe to see that article, I would be pretty pissed.

Re: Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

#37
post #16

For anyone thinking, "O good the government is here to investigate and get our money back" I wouldn't get too excited I'd say this is more likely them wanting to investigate Silk Road related Bitcoin activity than any desire to help those screwed by Gox.

I like how you jump to thought policing as your gut reaction.

Re: Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

#38
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was wondering if they were deliberately allowing archive sites past the paywall.

More likely archive.is is pretending to be Googlebot. The author has a lot of server side tricks, like fake Facebook accounts so that it can archive Facebook pages properly.

I'm attempting to replicate this. Searching the last sentence (which is behind the paywall) brings it up in google right away, so I think you're right. However, using Googlebot's user agent doesn't work, so it must be slightly more sophisticated. The result in Google is also not-paywalled, though going directly to the link is. So maybe they use a simpler strategy, and just mess with the parameters. This is the result from google: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230388060...

Re: Mt. Gox Receives Subpoena From Federal Prosecutor: Source

#40
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty embarrassing that you can read most of the article with the paywall intact.

That's amazing. If I'd subscribe to see that article, I would be pretty pissed.

I think its more intended for other news outlets.
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