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Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

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Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

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Wow. Check out the people who lost serious money on MtGox: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yv26o/gox_horror_s... One person lost 1998 btc. That was anywhere from $500,000 to a million bucks.

Yikes I guess I shouldn't feel so bad about my 0.03 btc that I lost.

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

#32
post #30

It's interesting to watch ordinary people attempt to dabble in currency. How many criminal organizations, governments, and financial institutions (redundant?) the world over have people who wake up everyday just to manipulate the value of currency? For example, a common criticism of China is that they purposely manipulate their currency to devalue the US dollar. In which ways could such organizations impact a new cur…

Not to be nitpicking but a common criticism of China is that they manipulate their currency to _increase_ the value of dollar not devalue it.

Yes, the Chinese are hard at work to give Americans ever more manufactured goods for ever fewer green pieces of paper.

(Or to be more accurately, entries in a data base.)

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

#33
post #14

hypothetical question for someone who is knowledgeable about bitcoin: since bitcoin is an experiment, what happens if it completely fails? what does a total failure scenario even look like, in terms of symptoms? where does all the 'real' money go? i don't understand how 6% of bitcoin can disappear when one of the supposed selling points is that you can verify all the transactions.

You don't need to be knowledgeable about bitcoin specifically to know what happens, at the last financial crisis we got the same lesson. Value is perceived, and value can evaporate. If bitcoin completely fails, the value evaporates. It's a bit like buying a house in Detroit a decade ago for a hefty price, and trying to sell it today. Your money wasn't eaten by the house, no-one ran away with it, but it's now worth si…

The money was stolen, not a market downturn

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

#34

Wow. Check out the people who lost serious money on MtGox: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yv26o/gox_horror_s... One person lost 1998 btc. That was anywhere from $500,000 to a million bucks.

Here they are a few hours earlier trying to convince themselves that it was all FUD:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yscsq/mtgox_lets_t...

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

#35
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This is a bit bigger than Silk Road in terms of the amount of money people will probably lose but it wouldn't surprise me if something similar to the rally that followed the Silk Road take down happens. It's going to put Bitcoin in the news, this is the best entry price in the past 4 months, and Mt.Gox going under means the unethical players continue to shake out which can only be good.

> Mt.Gox going under means the unethical players continue to shake out which can only be good.

I'm not completely clear on the details (likely no one is), but it seems to me that the unethical players stole a lot of money and got away scot free. Lots of innocent people lost money, and yes mtgox, an incompetent player, will get shaken out. That doesn't exactly seem like a stellar outcome.

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

#36

I really wish I had some BTC just to separate some fools from their money. Either through trading on the market or some sort of BTC based gambling. BTC isn't very liquid but I'd bet you could extract 50K in USD from it a year without too much trouble.

>> I really wish I had some BTC

So go and buy some

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

#38
I'm just hoping I can get home after work and buy some coins at the price the are now before it goes up again. I feel that this is mostly already discounted in the price, everyone was expecting it. It may drop further but it's not going to last.

I should add that I only plan to spend perhaps 1% of my money available for saving/investing in bitcoin. I think it's a good investment but the risk is too high to risk more.

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

#39

Saw this coming a mile off. I hope the people who lost bitcoin learn not to keep them anywhere but in their own wallets.

I came late to the Bitcoin party, so when I started mining other coins mid-last year the first thing I did was download the wallet client and encrypt, and backed it up. And I still didn't fully trust that my coins were safe, and that there wasn't some other bug in the protocol that could result in my coins getting stolen somehow (or at least confusion arising as to who owns them). I don't understand how people put so much trust in these exchanges as to have millions of dollars equivalent of coins there.

Re: Apparent Theft at Mt. Gox Shakes Bitcoin World

#40
I wonder if law enforcement is already questioning him; I am sure FBI has eyes on him already. Yes. I want him to come out and explain to us. Any employees should come out and give us insider stories. Whoever took advantage of this (whether it's criminal or Mt itself) should be punished.
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