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Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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Dear Mr. Jobs, please fix the AppStore approval process before you do anything else. I can live with the extra dot for missed calls, I actually like being reminded to call them back after listening to a voice mail.

How about removing the app store approval process altogether? And what about allowing programatically customisable homepages/widgets? Then users could have it work the way they wanted instead of begging apple to change things.

Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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You seem to be picking nits. The _only_ time its telling you of an absence of a voicemail is when it's a 1.

Not always. I have a weird bug with my iPhone where I'll receive voicemails, but the phone itself doesn't ring - others have reported this too (whether it's an O2 UK problem or what, I don't know). Thus it's actually really useful for me to know if I have a missed call or a voicemail that never rang through. It also confuses the hell out of a system that'd try to guess which missed call the voicemail belongs to...

Its definitely not a UK problem - happens here in SF w/ AT&T usually in my house when I can't get a signal ;-)

Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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That wouldn't matter. After a voicemail is received, compare its attributes to recently missed calls. If there was a missed call from the same number that left the voicemail, chances are good the recent highlight can be removed.

"chances are good" is a slippery slope.

You could make this work if you took into account the time the call and voice mail were received. You could even treat them as a "conversation" kind of how gmail does.

Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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post #31
post #7

Dear Mr. Jobs, please fix the AppStore approval process before you do anything else. I can live with the extra dot for missed calls, I actually like being reminded to call them back after listening to a voice mail.

How about removing the app store approval process altogether? And what about allowing programatically customisable homepages/widgets? Then users could have it work the way they wanted instead of begging apple to change things.

So, in other words, just like Android?

Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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I also wonder why voice messages aren't put in the "Messages" app. Seems like a more natural place to put them. When you launch the Phone, you want to make a call, not read messages. It's just a relic of the dial-to-get-voicemail era, probably cemented in place by AT&T contracts.

Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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post #31

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How about removing the app store approval process altogether? And what about allowing programatically customisable homepages/widgets? Then users could have it work the way they wanted instead of begging apple to change things.

So, in other words, just like Android?

I think you're right.

I have neither myself. I use an old phone with a black and white screen that has a contact book and makes calls so I am blissfully not opinionated.

I like that there are different platforms taking different approaches. If Apple wants to approve apps and 'manage' the market, centrally plan away. If Google wants to direct an open system, go ahead. The approaches can compete, that way whatever works lasts and we might have several open or several closed platforms. If they both make it, it probably means they serve different markets. Also good.

At the end of the day, both are far from a monopoly that can dictate anything. Consumers are opting for the Apple system.

I guess eventually most phones will be 'smart' and as long as Apple don't make most of them, I'm not worried.

Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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post #37

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So, in other words, just like Android?

I think you're right. I have neither myself. I use an old phone with a black and white screen that has a contact book and makes calls so I am blissfully not opinionated. I like that there are different platforms taking different approaches. If Apple wants to approve apps and 'manage' the market, centrally plan away. If Google wants to direct an open system, go ahead. The approaches can compete, that way whatever work…

> as long as Apple don't make most of them, I'm not worried.

Exactly.

Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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Hmm... compromise perhaps: Voicemail page stays the same, loses an indication of new voicemails, Call log keeps indication of new calls and ability to play voicemail associated with a call. No change to coloring of missed calls. * Point 1 is mitigated because missed calls show up in red. * Point 2 is mitigated because voicemail page remains. * Point 3 is ignored because it's probably not a huge concern.

That would be nice except aren't there ways to leave voicemails directly? In that case you would have a voicemail but no missed call. It's a less-than-important edge case, I admit.

Like when your phone is off or not in a cell service area.

Re: Dear Mr. Jobs, I have some ideas about how to improve your phone

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"chances are good" is a slippery slope.

You could make this work if you took into account the time the call and voice mail were received. You could even treat them as a "conversation" kind of how gmail does.

The thing that strikes me as odd, is that Apple doesn't do this. This problem and work-around were obvious to me the first time I got a voicemail. And Apple doesn't often make thoughtless mistakes like that.

It makes me wonder if AT&Ts voice mail system just isn't giving them enough information to match the records reliably.

(E.g. If the voice mail record doesn't distinguish between the origination number and the callback number, trying to match messages to missed calls would be inconsistent.)

It wouldn't have to be much; just enough margin for error to make the system a little unreliable. Because I can definitely see Apple opting for 'weird, but consistent' over 'inconsistent', even if it is only rarely inconsistent.

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