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Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout

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Re: Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout

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You'd think that after 10 or so such major protests in the past few years, the dictators would learn not to repeat the same mistakes everyone else did before them. Someone should write a "10 commandments" of sort for how dictators should react in case of major protest. Maybe do what American presidents do: promise major changes and tell them everything they want to hear , and then do cosmetic changes at best over a l…

Beyond the issues of democracy, transparency, legality, etc. The government of Venezuela has a problem of stupidity. The economic policies have created a lot of damage to the economy. They were able to do it because of the huge amounts of oil that they have. But it is becoming harder and harder to sustain it.

The big question at this point is how far are they willing to go to stay in power?

Re: Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout

#33

You'd think that after 10 or so such major protests in the past few years, the dictators would learn not to repeat the same mistakes everyone else did before them. Someone should write a "10 commandments" of sort for how dictators should react in case of major protest. Maybe do what American presidents do: promise major changes and tell them everything they want to hear , and then do cosmetic changes at best over a l…

Maduro isn't a dictator, he's the democratically elected head of a weak government. The government had been run as a cult of personality, that personality died, and the professional class smelled blood. These protesters are ultimately demanding that the police shoot more people, not fewer. They feel their country is spinning out of control, and needs a strongman to save it. Paging Dr. Pinochet?

You know Hitler was also democratically elected, and do you know the Elections committee in Venezuela is practically ruled by the Government?, and did you know elections in Venezuela are electronically counted? and did you know that we all asked for the votes to be recounted manually and the boxes disappeared under government custody? And anyone who takes out all news channels and communication sources can pretty much be called a dictator. So read a bit more inform yourself and then you can make an accurate statement. Nothing personal, I'm just tired of people not knowing what's really happening and creating their own opinions because they "liked" Chavez because he was against Bush, used as a propaganda while selling a big chunk of Venezuela's oil to the US.Just saying. Anyway the discussion is if you take down news channels for no reasons and start blocking internet access to information sources you are a dictator, period. Protesters are demanding freedom of speech as they killed for the same reason.

Re: Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout

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post #10

Lets help them be able to read free information with modem dial uplinks, satellite uplinks and mesh wireless networks. http://www.meshnetworking.org/further-reading/current-projec... http://tidepools.co/ http://servalproject.org/ Mesh Firmware for Ubiquity network http://commotionwireless.net/download/routers OpenBTS is a Unix application that uses a software radio to present a GSM Um interface to handsets and uses a…

Elias Levy (Aleph One) is originally from Venezuela. I don't know if he is involved in politics there.

Re: Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout

#36
post #5

I saw this post yesterday http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=180977 It shows how leaders of opposition are using images from protests from Egypt, Bulgaria and other places as if they were from Venezuela

Actually many of these images are being planted by venezuelan intelligence services to discredit the protests. We have no need to post fake protest images, we have plenty of violent images, no need to make them up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqmzfwqczZw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxbdzBYjAug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw9sAxy-fQY

Re: Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout

#37

You'd think that after 10 or so such major protests in the past few years, the dictators would learn not to repeat the same mistakes everyone else did before them. Someone should write a "10 commandments" of sort for how dictators should react in case of major protest. Maybe do what American presidents do: promise major changes and tell them everything they want to hear , and then do cosmetic changes at best over a l…

Maduro isn't a dictator, he's the democratically elected head of a weak government. The government had been run as a cult of personality, that personality died, and the professional class smelled blood. These protesters are ultimately demanding that the police shoot more people, not fewer. They feel their country is spinning out of control, and needs a strongman to save it. Paging Dr. Pinochet?

Maduro was Chavez's chosen successor. Elections in Venezuela aren't "democratic" by any normal definition of the term: the government controls all media outlets and suppresses campaign ads from opposition parties, nationalizes huge chunks of the economy and turns employees working in those areas into public sector employees who are required to vote for the incumbent, further buys hundreds of thousands of votes with giveaways, and withholds police protection from areas that support opponents in what has become one of the most violent countries in the western hemisphere.

Maduro is a strongman out of central casting.

Not for nothing, but the notion that the opposition is calling for violence has been reported as Maduro propaganda:

A campaign started the day after the election to accuse members of the opposition of inciting violence. The word went out that nine people had been killed by opposition members on election day, and several voting stations set on fire. (There had in fact been angry confrontations between supporters of both sides, but the government has yet to provide evidence of politically-related arson or homicides in addition to the average of nine people who are murdered every day in Caracas.)

In any event, the new epithet for Capriles and his followers is “murderers,” a serious charge and a political mistake, considering that they represent half of the electorate.

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2013/may/08/chavismo-af...

Re: Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout

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I think the internet is back up in most parts of the country, I have some friends in Tachira and it seems that things are back to normal, for now. The govt keeps running small tests like last week when they blocked twitter images for a couple of hours and last night in Tachira.

Meanwhile, there is a complete media blackout. Local TV channels are being censored and are not informing what is going on in the country. Our only means of information is the internet, mostly twitter. This causes a lot of misinformation unfortunately.

Last night , while there were protests everywhere in Caracas and the rest of the country the president went on TV live to talk (all the channels have to stop regular programming and have to transmit whatever he is saying), the National Guard with armed government supporters went out and cracked down hard on all the protestors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqmzfwqczZw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxbdzBYjAug

I have friends in other areas in Caracas that had to sleep on the floor because of constant shooting from the streets up to the apartments.

Re: Venezuela's Internet Crackdown Escalates into Regional Blackout

#40

You'd think that after 10 or so such major protests in the past few years, the dictators would learn not to repeat the same mistakes everyone else did before them. Someone should write a "10 commandments" of sort for how dictators should react in case of major protest. Maybe do what American presidents do: promise major changes and tell them everything they want to hear , and then do cosmetic changes at best over a l…

Maduro isn't a dictator, he's the democratically elected head of a weak government. The government had been run as a cult of personality, that personality died, and the professional class smelled blood. These protesters are ultimately demanding that the police shoot more people, not fewer. They feel their country is spinning out of control, and needs a strongman to save it. Paging Dr. Pinochet?

The difference between a dictator and democrat isn't being elected democratically - the difference is seen when someone peacefully steps down after democratic elections.
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