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Re: Twitter Bootstrap Expo

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Post by ksmsjm »

hiphopyo wrote: post #3
sgdesign wrote: post #2

Serious question: what do these sites get from using Bootstrap? I can't see any of Bootstrap's UI elements in use, so is it the grid? If so, I think something like Susy ( http://susy.oddbird.net ) is far superior. It's more powerful, and also won't pollute your markup with classes like "col-md-6".

I don't see why people need to use Bootstrap at all. What's wrong with starting from scratch? Sure, Bootstrap has a lot of best practices you can copy / paste, but so do tons of other boilerplate projects on GitHub. I also don't see why people need to use grids. Grids are meant for graphic design (ie. http://subtraction.com/pics/0703/grids_are_good.pdf ) and architecture, not CSS. What's wrong with margins, paddings…

Agree on this specially if your grid= typical 2 or 3 column layout. You must be really bad at css to fail on this.

Doing front end for 30-40 sites a year from many many diffent designers for a long time and projects with bootstrap included have cost me more time spent in the end to it look right. Also BS class names are more visual than component based that can end up with some retarded hacks when design needs an update

Re: Twitter Bootstrap Expo

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Post by kartikkumar »

I'm building a MVP at the moment and whilst I have a basic understanding of HTML and CSS, I am looking towards Bootstrap to get things going. We started with a simple LaunchRock landing page [1], but now we want to hook the site up to MailChimp, do a bit of A/B testing and also start building elements of our platform using RoR.

I don't want to deal with the nightmare of using Wordpress as the front-end for this, so Bootstrap seems like a lean way of going about this.

Forgive me if I'm asking a completely n00b front-end question. If you ask me why Bootstrap, it's basically because of its popularity, and how easy I've found it to set something up in a few minutes. I know Foundation is pretty powerful too, but since I've already started with Bootstrap, I figure I don't have a real reason to pivot to something else at the moment. Any reason I shouldn't be considering Bootstrap? Any pitfalls I'm unaware of?

[1] www.launchrock.com

Re: Twitter Bootstrap Expo

#33

Post by andybak »

maouida wrote: post #27
sgdesign wrote: post #2

Serious question: what do these sites get from using Bootstrap? I can't see any of Bootstrap's UI elements in use, so is it the grid? If so, I think something like Susy ( http://susy.oddbird.net ) is far superior. It's more powerful, and also won't pollute your markup with classes like "col-md-6".

As a developer, I prefer to use BS for many reasons. - Familiar class names. I don't have to create and memorize new class names on every new project. - Responsiveness. - Cross browsers.

Yep. One overlooked facet of Bootstrap is that it is a set of conventions and a naming scheme.

That's not to be sniffed at.

Re: Twitter Bootstrap Expo

#34

Post by Kudos »

hiphopyo wrote: post #29
Kudos wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't downvote, but your tone is all wrong. You sound like a know it all, while also not making a strong argument against grids.

I'll take that with a grain of salt. For stronger arguments, see my other posts.

I read all of your posts, you come off as an asshole in many of them, particularly:

> So basically it's for people not too familiar with HTML and CSS? Ie. like a WordPress theme?

Re: Twitter Bootstrap Expo

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Post by inanov »

jamhan wrote: post #21
sgdesign wrote: post #2

Serious question: what do these sites get from using Bootstrap? I can't see any of Bootstrap's UI elements in use, so is it the grid? If so, I think something like Susy ( http://susy.oddbird.net ) is far superior. It's more powerful, and also won't pollute your markup with classes like "col-md-6".

Ease of getting started is one reason. Bootstrap: 1. "> 2. Use it Susy: 1. Install Ruby 2. Install Compass 3. Install Sass 4. Install Susy 5. Use it.

In my case, Ruby is already installed, so it's quite easy as:

1. gem install compass 2. gem install sass 3. gem install susy

Re: Twitter Bootstrap Expo

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Post by Kudos »

anonymouz wrote: post #35

So, I move my mouse pointer over one of the example images, and it goes... blank? That's just terrible UX.

It's not meant to do that, it's meant to go slightly transparent. Perhaps you're encountering a bug?

Re: Twitter Bootstrap Expo

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Post by mmccaff »

Kudos wrote: post #37
anonymouz wrote: post #35

So, I move my mouse pointer over one of the example images, and it goes... blank? That's just terrible UX.

It's not meant to do that, it's meant to go slightly transparent. Perhaps you're encountering a bug?

Funny, after visiting the site I went straight to the comments to see if anyone else had the same feedback. It goes slightly transparent (not blank) but the standard hand/cursor pointer would be enough to let me know that the image is clickable, and the icon-forward does even more.

I suppose I might leave my mouse pointer hanging out in the middle of the screen a lot, but my intention was just to scroll through the site and look at the large pictures. Unfortunately, whatever is front and center (the one I want to look at) goes jarringly faded because my mouse is usually unintentionally hovering it. I could live with a more subtle opacity: 0.90. :)

That said, nice site. For something similar, if you have not seen it, you might be interested in builtwithbootstrap.com.

Re: Twitter Bootstrap Expo

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Post by hiphopyo »

Kudos wrote: post #34
hiphopyo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take that with a grain of salt. For stronger arguments, see my other posts.

I read all of your posts, you come off as an asshole in many of them, particularly: > So basically it's for people not too familiar with HTML and CSS? Ie. like a WordPress theme?

I think you misread. I was not being sarcastic, just trying to understand why Bootstrap is so popular.
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