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Or the East India Company if you want to go even further back.
Can you please elaborate? The East India Company never recovered from its episode of near-bankruptcy
Nothing Keeps Apple From Making an Android Phone Except Common Sense
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Re: Nothing Keeps Apple From Making an Android Phone Except Common Sense
#32All the article really needed to say was "but then Apple fans would try an Android phone, realise the software is better (and likely start experimenting with having root access to their own hardware, which apple certainly dislike), then get an Android phone comparably specced to and cheaper than the iphone 6 instead of one come upgrade time".
I am always surprised when people start talking about specs for phones. This has never once been an input into my buying decision for me.
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That only works as macs have an x86 architecture.
Most current smartphones are ARMv7, Apple's A7 stands out as a(n albeit slower) ARMv8 SoC. I'm not quite sure about the compatibility between the two, but at least iPhones 5/5C should be architecturally compatible. Performance might be questionable, as current Android phones tend to be quad-core models clocked around 2 GHz while A6/A7 feature only two cores at around 1.3-1.4 GHz.
Re: Nothing Keeps Apple From Making an Android Phone Except Common Sense
#34All the article really needed to say was "but then Apple fans would try an Android phone, realise the software is better (and likely start experimenting with having root access to their own hardware, which apple certainly dislike), then get an Android phone comparably specced to and cheaper than the iphone 6 instead of one come upgrade time".
>realise the software is better At the risk of noshing down some trollbait, could you perhaps qualify this statement or are you just going to go with your subjectiuve view as fact?
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The jankiest thing about Android (well, aside from crappy manufacturer skins and undeletable carrier spamware) is the pauses and delays in user response. Those all come from the disastrous choice to use Java as a programming language. User facing software always feels slow when it's subject to the performance losses of automatic memory management. Java is inherently garbage collected and low power mobile devices just…
It's important to note that it's the Java language, but not the Java bytecode or Java Virtual Machine that are used in Android. It could easily have been really any language that Google wished to provide a compiler for towards their custom bytecode/VM. It was somewhat arbitrarily the Java language but was a good business choice IMHO due to the prevalence of Java developers in the market. Secondly, there's nothing sto…
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Can you please elaborate? The East India Company never recovered from its episode of near-bankruptcy
Not the near-bankruptcy part, just the most-profitable part.
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Most current smartphones are ARMv7, Apple's A7 stands out as a(n albeit slower) ARMv8 SoC. I'm not quite sure about the compatibility between the two, but at least iPhones 5/5C should be architecturally compatible. Performance might be questionable, as current Android phones tend to be quad-core models clocked around 2 GHz while A6/A7 feature only two cores at around 1.3-1.4 GHz.
It's not just the CPU, they would have to provide Android drivers for networking, bluetooth, cameras, etc. ARM platforms aren't standardized like PCs.
Hardware platforms that allow me to swap software on them are very few and far between. The fact that PCs were like this over 20 years ago and continue to be so to this day is amazing.
It's a shame that phone hardware didn't follow the same path. Android's openness (for varying levels of "open") is great and all, but I'm more interested in hardware openness. The Nexus line seems to be the current leader in openness + consumer availability + quality, but it's a shame there aren't more.
Re: Nothing Keeps Apple From Making an Android Phone Except Common Sense
#38Apple has been doing the right thing all along. Because the very thing that enabled Apple to rise from near bankruptcy to just about the most profitable company in the history of capitalism is providing and controlling an integrated, soup-to-nuts hardware and software ecosystem. A big part of the reason why Android still feels so janky is that it has to cater to multiple hardware vendors and other stakeholders (carri…
The right thing that Apple did was build an manufacturer customized version of Unix (i.e. OSX) because Mac OS7, 8 and 9 had fallen behind the competition. Apple could very well succeed by forking/building on Android
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>realise the software is better At the risk of noshing down some trollbait, could you perhaps qualify this statement or are you just going to go with your subjectiuve view as fact?
Well, it's open source, but past that, it allows installs from outside a store, has far greater user customisability, better notifications, a better desktop separate from the app launcher menu, and is far more hospitable to users having full access to the hardware they actually own.
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> People that want an iPhone want it for the hardware software combination. I'm not so certain that's case. Today the iPhone is at least feature comparative to Android (turn by turn navigation, LTE, decent google integration and hangouts) - but Android still doesn't have as nice hardware as Apple. I really wanted Nokia to start making Android devices because they do make beautiful hardware, but unfortunately they wen…
I found the HTC One to be pretty solid, not as good as Apple but very nice and very well built. If I remember rightly the stats show a lot of the Android sales are low-to-mid range hardware, so there's possibly not as much reason for companies to build really high end phones if they don't think there's a market.
I think you're right that most of the android sales are low to midrange hardware, but there are no real high end options except for the HTC One and Nexus 5 which are not readily available in stores. The Moto X was solid though too - shouldn't not mention that one.
I think people who use iOS probably would not jump to an Apple device running Android, but there are Android users who would jump from their samsung device to an Apple one.
I don't think Apple would do this because they want control over their ecosystem and they want to force people into iTunes, Apple TV, iBooks, iMessage etc, but I don't think it's necessarily a terrible idea.