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Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by greenyoda » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:24 PM UTC

A guy from Adobe replied in the comments. Apparently Adobe is a bit uncomfortable with the advice that their support rep gave about downloading a pirated copy of the software:

Hi, your blog post was brought to my attention. After reading this post, I want to apologize for the way that your issue was handled. Our tech support agent provided you incorrect information as far “that its OK to download pirated software”. This is not a company policy suggestion and should not of been suggested. We prefer to provide you a link to download the Adobe software from an Adobe server. Downloading pirated content can contain viruses and cause security issues. I can help you with downloading the software from the Adobe’s server. I have sent you my email via a private message on your contact page. Please contact me at your earliest convenience

Thank you

Scott V

Adobe Customer Care

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Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by Kudos » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:24 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

logicallee wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you mean, "the cheaper of the two options available to me."

If there are two products, and both can accomplish the necessary task(s), and one is cheaper, the cheaper product is the superior product.

Replace "can accomplish the necessary task(s)" with "are functionally equivalent" and maybe you have a point.

But the pirate copy is missing automatic updates and access to the web services (which Adobe has cleverly started moving into to add value where pirate copies cannot).

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by Kudos » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:26 PM UTC

sigzero wrote: post #28

> Me: So you’re telling me I should download an illegal copy of your software, and use my legal serial with it? If you have your legal serial number for the software...it isn't pirating.

If you are torrenting copyright files and therefore uploading bits of it in the process, you are enabling copyright infringement. At least by the standards of a number of courts around the world.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by te_chris » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:27 PM UTC

edj wrote: post #27

Installing old-school, shrinkwrapped box software onto computers that lack disk drives is a real pain point for a lot of people. I made a little video[1] explaining how to install MS Office Mac 2011 onto a MacBook Air -- for my own use, in case I ever needed to do it again -- and it's received over 36,000 views. LOTS of people have trouble with this. The Microsofts and Adobes in the industry don't appear to realize t…

Installing office is kids stuff, all 9 DVDs of native instrument's komplete 9 (not even the ultimate version which has like another 100 gigs of samples included) took 2 days using another laptop's drive over wifi.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by philwebster » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:27 PM UTC

dasil003 wrote: post #17

I was hoping this would be about how annoying the pricing is for Creative Cloud. If I was a designer then I could justify paying that kind of monthly tariff, but as primarily a developer who needs infrequent access to Photoshop or Illustrator the pricing options are just highway robbery. At least in the old days I could pay up front and stretch it out over time to get my money's worth by deciding when and if to upgra…

I completely agree. Each month I spend maybe an hour in Adobe apps, so even the student pricing (~$16/mo) which I'm eligible for, is too high for me to justify paying for Creative Cloud.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by MatthewWilkes » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:27 PM UTC

greenyoda wrote: post #31

A guy from Adobe replied in the comments. Apparently Adobe is a bit uncomfortable with the advice that their support rep gave about downloading a pirated copy of the software: Hi, your blog post was brought to my attention. After reading this post, I want to apologize for the way that your issue was handled. Our tech support agent provided you incorrect information as far “that its OK to download pirated software”. T…

"should not of been suggested"

twitch

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by yuvadam » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:31 PM UTC

MatthewWilkes wrote: post #36

greenyoda wrote: post #31

A guy from Adobe replied in the comments. Apparently Adobe is a bit uncomfortable with the advice that their support rep gave about downloading a pirated copy of the software: Hi, your blog post was brought to my attention. After reading this post, I want to apologize for the way that your issue was handled. Our tech support agent provided you incorrect information as far “that its OK to download pirated software”. T…

"should not of been suggested" twitch

"Scott".

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by dperfect » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:31 PM UTC

DominikR wrote: post #23

I just don't get such people, how can someone be so persistently annoying instead of just downloading the damn software somewhere else? Or maybe connecting an external DVD drive/using Apple Software to connect to some DVD drive over network. Instead this guy wastes his time calling hotlines and writing a pointless blog post - I guess that's what it means to be more productive on a Mac. (Of course, there are people th…

FWIW, I purchased the same CS5 Master Suite with a student/teacher license and opted originally not to receive a copy on optical media (IIRC, it was a bit cheaper that way). At the time, there was no indication that in 4 years, obtaining the software online from Adobe would be an issue.

Obtaining the software from other sources is obviously an option, but not one that should be required, especially for someone trying to "play by the rules."

EDIT: While I agree that digital-only distribution carries inherent risks to the buyer (and the buyer should normally maintain thier own backup of installation files), I think most people consider that risk to be associated with things like the publisher going out of business or some other major calamity. In this case, it sounds like Adobe is willfully removing these download options (I'm sure the file didn't disappear from Adobe's servers without someone in management deliberately making a decision to remove it) with the intent to encourage people to upgrade.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by sergiotapia » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:31 PM UTC

akerl_ wrote: post #30

woah wrote: post #5

Hate to say it, but I pirate Adobe's software for real. I use Pixelmator and Sketch, which are superior products at one tenth of the price. However, I often need to open files in Adobe's legacy formats, and since they do not provide any sort of converter software, I must take the only option available to me.

Can you clarify how pirating Adobe's software is "the only option available to [you]"? I get that it's ridiculously expensive and generally a pain in the ass... but needing to do something expensive doesn't provide justification for bypassing the cost, or in any way make "paying for the product" no longer an option.

Meh, it's an industry monopoly they have on a global scale. And a web developer from india cannot afford the huge price that comes with Adobe Photoshop - so they pirate it. Don't care personally, what do you they expect, in the real world? Shades of gray and all that.

Another example: games.

A AAA game costs 60$ on Steam a price 90% of the people online in South America can't afford. So what happened recently? A lot of latinamerican online stores sell Steam games for a much more realistic price. For example, a AAA game costs $30-$40 on sites like Nuuvem.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by digitalengineer » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:31 PM UTC

PinguTS wrote: post #21

The problem is just: "You have old software, which was distributed on CD/DVD and have no drive anymore." The solution: get a drive or use another Mac's drive via Remote DVD. The problem is not only with Adobe, but with others too. Like there is no MS Office download, AFAIK. Yes, Adobe has a ridiculous pricing policy, especially if you live outside the US (yeah, translating from English to English is expansive, UK ver…

Actually there s. I'm experimenting with MS cloud based products and was forced (more or less) to dl the entire thing during registation even though I have a legit ms office installed...