As much as I hate bloatware, this is another example of unwarranted regulation. Encourage more competition in the mobile carrier space and the free market will solve this better than any government can.
South Korea bans unremovable mobile bloatware
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Re: South Korea bans unremovable mobile bloatware
#32This unwarranted government intervention is not good though I hate the bloatware. Everytime I visit my parents I end up spending half an hour removing browser toolbars, make your PC fast software. So I bought them a brand new Lenovo laptop just to find that there were 22 different kind of bloatware from DNS related stuff to browser toolbars to some weird webcam and what not software. No matter how much I hate them, t…
I'm not sure how you would introduce bloatware to the average consumer, but right now it just comes across as a sneaky decision, not consumer-driven one.
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#33Re: South Korea bans unremovable mobile bloatware
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's if you get it though Verizon, its better to (byod), not buy on contract...
I think the point is that, regardless of how you get your iPhone, an iPhone will not have bloatware pre-installed. Same thing for Macs.
That said, you can have the best of both worlds by buying a Nexus device.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't the phone needs to be rooted for that to work? And rooting normally voids the warranty.
Rooting and flashing another firmware is an entirely different process! Rooting usually involves setting a configuration flag, maybe hacking the bootloader, which is for most devices a point and click op. Flashing a firmware is "real" hacking compared to rooting!
What is the average joe to do to get rid of all the crap that inhibits performance and drains the battery at double the speed to boot?
Re: South Korea bans unremovable mobile bloatware
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's if you get it though Verizon, its better to (byod), not buy on contract...
I think the point is that, regardless of how you get your iPhone, an iPhone will not have bloatware pre-installed. Same thing for Macs.
Personally I don't consider any of those items bloatware, I just wonder where the line should reasonably be drawn.
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#37Re: South Korea bans unremovable mobile bloatware
#38I'm surprised that so many people believe in the free market ideology (e.g. market regulation is always wrong). The error in this type of reasoning is very simple. They first assume an idealized market model and then derive conclusions from it – but the idealized market is just too different from real-world markets. It's really that simple but many really smart people fall for it.
PC market is quite competitive, yet most computers come with bloatware. The difference is, they can be uninstalled, but I suspect that may be due to OEM licensing agreement with Microsoft, than the competition among PC makers.
But at least with PCs, some of the revenue gained from bloatware is passed onto customers by the way of lower pricing.
In the end, this regulation is beneficial as long as the wireless market is competitive, so the carriers simply don't pass off the cost back onto the consumers. In that sense, I share with some other poster's sentiment that government regulations should focus on ensuring competitive landscape first.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is this unwarranted? The free market is there but we still have bloatware.
Road to hell, good intentions etc... Does it need to be a regulation? Silly regulations is what made South Korea entirely dependent on Internet Explorer.
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2006/08/the...
South Korea chose to mandate a technology rather than the desired outcome and never to update that law. They could alternatively have mandated multi-factor authentication or even simply made banks liable for any fraudulent transaction without any discussion of technology at all. These are all regulations but would affect the market in very different ways.
Re: South Korea bans unremovable mobile bloatware
#40I'm surprised that so many people believe in the free market ideology (e.g. market regulation is always wrong). The error in this type of reasoning is very simple. They first assume an idealized market model and then derive conclusions from it – but the idealized market is just too different from real-world markets. It's really that simple but many really smart people fall for it.