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Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by this_user » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 1:20 PM UTC

JoshGlazebrook wrote: post #6

forrestthewoods wrote: post #2

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

> He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. And the way the recording industry works is any different?

The recording industry at least doesn't run an underground BBS and sells out its users to law enforcement to save itself after being raided. Kimble has always been a self-centred scumbag. I really don't understand why anybody ever trust him again with anything.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by kintamanimatt » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 1:21 PM UTC

zwdr wrote: post #29

jnardiello wrote: post #16

Kim Dotcom is an evil genius and a remarkable marketing guy. During his whole career no doubts he made a fortune out of other people work BUT, still, he can't be considered responsible for it because - in fact - he had MILLIONS of users who actually used the pirated content megaupload made available (and i dare anyone here to throw the first stone if they never used megaupload). So, while i'm not yet sure i like the…

Kimble is a fraud and an asshole. The only things he's good at are marketing and scamming. Just take a look at his history- insider trading, selling userdata from a BBS he ran to a lawyer, scamming the german telcos... the list is quite long. He's a good marketer, but one of the worst people I've read about. There's a file of his quotes (from the CCC mailing list) circulating, if you know german you should try readin…

> "Merry X-mas & a hacky new year by KIMBLE"

> 19 - 21 December 1996

He's horrible!

In all seriousness, I've had a quick read through (with the finest of Google's translations) and I'm not sure what you're drawing exception to. There's stuff that just sounds like satire and other BS, but I can't figure out why you wrote what you wrote.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by r4pha » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 1:21 PM UTC

forrestthewoods wrote: post #2

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

Don't hate the player. Hate the game.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by zwdr » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 1:22 PM UTC

kintamanimatt wrote: post #32

zwdr wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kimble is a fraud and an asshole. The only things he's good at are marketing and scamming. Just take a look at his history- insider trading, selling userdata from a BBS he ran to a lawyer, scamming the german telcos... the list is quite long. He's a good marketer, but one of the worst people I've read about. There's a file of his quotes (from the CCC mailing list) circulating, if you know german you should try readin…

> "Merry X-mas & a hacky new year by KIMBLE" > 19 - 21 December 1996 He's horrible! In all seriousness, I've had a quick read through (with the finest of Google's translations) and I'm not sure what you're drawing exception to. There's stuff that just sounds like satire and other BS, but I can't figure out why you wrote what you wrote.

:S

EDIT: For a bit of background: He and the CCC were never really friendly with each other. He tried to fit in the german hacker culture, but everyone knew he was a fraud.

For example, he tried to recruit young people on the mailing list into shady jobs with promises of easy money (that he didn't have back then). There are a few other stunts, but generally he behaved like a 14 year old asshole with a big ego and too much time on his hand. Didn't help that he tried to bullshit everyone about how much money he made (DATAPROTECT LOL).

Maybe that didn't get through the translation.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by jagermo » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 1:31 PM UTC

zwdr wrote: post #29

jnardiello wrote: post #16

Kim Dotcom is an evil genius and a remarkable marketing guy. During his whole career no doubts he made a fortune out of other people work BUT, still, he can't be considered responsible for it because - in fact - he had MILLIONS of users who actually used the pirated content megaupload made available (and i dare anyone here to throw the first stone if they never used megaupload). So, while i'm not yet sure i like the…

Kimble is a fraud and an asshole. The only things he's good at are marketing and scamming. Just take a look at his history- insider trading, selling userdata from a BBS he ran to a lawyer, scamming the german telcos... the list is quite long. He's a good marketer, but one of the worst people I've read about. There's a file of his quotes (from the CCC mailing list) circulating, if you know german you should try readin…

i always recommend the dossier at attriton.org: http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/kimble/

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by jagermo » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 1:36 PM UTC

mrkmcknz wrote: post #20

Say what you want about Kim Dotcom, the guy is a marketing genius. Before Megaupload he was virtually unknown out of tech/finance circles. Now my mother knows who he is. Albeit, she calls him Dotcom Internet.

No, he was not. He was, among other things, known as a fellon in a pump and dump scheme around letsbuyit.com. http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/kimble/

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by jagermo » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 1:38 PM UTC

ing33k wrote: post #24

he can also sing ? wow

just like Silvio Berlusconi. And probably one of the Kim-Clan in northern Korea.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by staticelf » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 1:57 PM UTC

Wow, never thought it would be such hate on HN against kim.com?

I think he seems to really fight for internet freedom in more ways than the angry commentators in this thread probably will ever do.

Who cares if he had a dark past. He's already been to jail for one crime in my knowledge and I think he really deserves his money.

It seems you're gonna buy the songs you want to listen to directly from artists with this new service. It can't be anything like pirating? He is really pushing it forward and completes his products with the touch of quality.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by brazzy » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 2:10 PM UTC

staticelf wrote: post #38

Wow, never thought it would be such hate on HN against kim.com? I think he seems to really fight for internet freedom in more ways than the angry commentators in this thread probably will ever do. Who cares if he had a dark past. He's already been to jail for one crime in my knowledge and I think he really deserves his money. It seems you're gonna buy the songs you want to listen to directly from artists with this ne…

The only thing he has ever fought for is his own bank account. He doesn't have a "dark past", but an ongoing history of scamming. You can be assured that he will find the optimal way to scam both you and the artists out of as much money as possible.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Post by rfnslyr » Mon, Jan 20, 2014, 2:12 PM UTC

forrestthewoods wrote: post #2

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

If this is how you feel about the world, how do you live? Do you simply just not use services you feel have been corrupt? If that's the case the only place you should really be located is the woods without internet.