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N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers

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Re: N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers

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post #19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if the foreignerns don't want to spied up on? Or do they count for less?

Nobody wants to be spied on. You wouldn't need spying if everyone just volunteered all their desired information.

Just go to Facebook ;) SCNR!

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#32

I do understand that it is now the status quo to disavow everything the NSA is, but foreign intelligence gathering is their mission and releasing these details simply doesn't help the cause of fixing the NSA's less savoury incursions. While arguably any foreign intelligence agency of note isn't going to be caught off guard by these leaks, leaking these details does offer political ammunition to the very people who st…

That's an odd argument and seems completely circular. You effectively state that the leaks aren't such a good thing ipso facto, then you go on to say that leaking these details proves it; thus they shouldn't be leaked. Kind of hard to find where that argument begins and ends. I know where your thinking is going, but you would first have to establish the NSA's trustworthiness to get there. That is exactly what is in q…

I think he means that a distinction should be made when considering whether to leak information.

Is this information something the public needs to know, because it tells them something important about their democracy, or would releasing this be an ironic hindrance to the common public interest?

That's how I read it anyway.

Re: N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers

#34
post #6

Transmit as far as "EIGHT Miles". Does anyone know what type of power this would take? I imagine if they used a less noisy frequency combined with sensitive receiving equipment, it would not take much. I used to play with CB radios which has a cap at 4W, with a good antenna, one could transmit 7+ miles in good situations.

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Re: N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers

#35

I do understand that it is now the status quo to disavow everything the NSA is, but foreign intelligence gathering is their mission and releasing these details simply doesn't help the cause of fixing the NSA's less savoury incursions. While arguably any foreign intelligence agency of note isn't going to be caught off guard by these leaks, leaking these details does offer political ammunition to the very people who st…

That's an odd argument and seems completely circular. You effectively state that the leaks aren't such a good thing ipso facto, then you go on to say that leaking these details proves it; thus they shouldn't be leaked. Kind of hard to find where that argument begins and ends. I know where your thinking is going, but you would first have to establish the NSA's trustworthiness to get there. That is exactly what is in q…

That's why the parent called it political ammuniton.

Circular logic is the C of politics.

Re: N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers

#36
post #17

I do understand that it is now the status quo to disavow everything the NSA is, but foreign intelligence gathering is their mission and releasing these details simply doesn't help the cause of fixing the NSA's less savoury incursions. While arguably any foreign intelligence agency of note isn't going to be caught off guard by these leaks, leaking these details does offer political ammunition to the very people who st…

What if the foreignerns don't want to spied up on? Or do they count for less?

What is the use of acting naive about foreign affairs, diplomacy, and statecraft?

Are you really suggesting that your country's intelligence service doesn't attempt to do the same?

Re: N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers

#38
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we get a Politics tab on the HN bar so we can filter the endless political debates? This should make everyone happy?

Why do you go into political discussion boards (meaning political news here), when you don't like them? Just wondering.

I came looking for a discussion of the mechanism by which such an attack might be possible.

Re: N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers

#39
post #6

Transmit as far as "EIGHT Miles". Does anyone know what type of power this would take? I imagine if they used a less noisy frequency combined with sensitive receiving equipment, it would not take much. I used to play with CB radios which has a cap at 4W, with a good antenna, one could transmit 7+ miles in good situations.

Could it be via powerlines? edit: I know the article mentions wireless, but it might not be true after all

I suppose it's possible, but if I were the NSA I wouldn't bet on getting a signal past the neighborhood distribution transformer. There's often enough disturbance on a building-wide circuit to cause problems with powerline networking. Your 42" LCD TV probably has enough power-conditioning circuitry to interfere with network signals.

Re: N.S.A. Devises Radio Pathway Into Computers

#40
post #37

This is another example of how Snowden has compromised national security by leaking secret information that has nothing to do with American metadata and everything to do with the NSA's charter and legal mission.

Maybe it's Snowden, maybe it isn't. It has been suggested by the reporters of this information that the Snowden name may be used as a cover for other NSA leakers.
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