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Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

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Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

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post #25

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Cryptocat's website and the Cryptocat app itself are both fully translated into Catalan, and we maintain a very communicative and open relationship with PuntCAT.

The only page I have found in Catalan so far is the homepage, and it is translated 50% by Google and 50% by someone who probably did not even finish high school. I'm happy that the app is translated into Catalan. I hope the translation is better than the one on the website. Just wanted to make sure you know what this domain is actually used for.

I'd gladly accept your help with improving our Catalan translations! :-)

Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

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post #25

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The only page I have found in Catalan so far is the homepage, and it is translated 50% by Google and 50% by someone who probably did not even finish high school. I'm happy that the app is translated into Catalan. I hope the translation is better than the one on the website. Just wanted to make sure you know what this domain is actually used for.

I'd gladly accept your help with improving our Catalan translations! :-)

I can surely help you translate the homepage. Just give me a contact mail.

Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only page I have found in Catalan so far is the homepage, and it is translated 50% by Google and 50% by someone who probably did not even finish high school. I'm happy that the app is translated into Catalan. I hope the translation is better than the one on the website. Just wanted to make sure you know what this domain is actually used for.

Are you offering to help with more Catalan translations?

I'm offering to translate the homepage :)

Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

#34
post #3

And why the hell should i use a app that is written by know poeple that prooven they have no clue about crypto? Why shouldn't i use one of the many apps that support OTR?

Please tell me something that even approaches these conditions:

1. Implements OTR / Isn't a roll your own flawed cryptosystem like telegram?

2. Can be used by non technical users

3. Can be used on linux, osx, windows, ios and android?

4. Does not crash all the time (ios's chatsecure)

5. Is open source?

So far, unable to find it. It's easy to be a critic. Cryptocat and textsecure are the only two contenders, and right now cryptocat is the closest one to meet all of those conditions.

Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

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post #21

Easy to be snarky about this. But I admire their persistence. In the face of the extensive criticism they could have just given up. Instead they have acknowledged making mistakes, didn't give up, learnt from the mistake and changed their subsequent behavior. This is admirable.

Compare them to underground dentists - Bob has no medical training, but has a dremel and practiced on a pig head. He offers to do a filling for his pal. He makes a bit of a botch of it, but he larns from his mistake and carries on. Dentistry is important so it's admirable that Bob ignores the criticism. Bob's first pal is currently fighting off a severe infection, but Bob uses that as a learning experience. Bob will…

Except, this is software.

My favorite expression when things get heated: "Nobody is going to die."

There are exceptions, of course, but a vast majority of the work we do just doesn't matter in the context of life and nature.

Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

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post #36
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compare them to underground dentists - Bob has no medical training, but has a dremel and practiced on a pig head. He offers to do a filling for his pal. He makes a bit of a botch of it, but he larns from his mistake and carries on. Dentistry is important so it's admirable that Bob ignores the criticism. Bob's first pal is currently fighting off a severe infection, but Bob uses that as a learning experience. Bob will…

Except, this is software. My favorite expression when things get heated: "Nobody is going to die." There are exceptions, of course, but a vast majority of the work we do just doesn't matter in the context of life and nature.

That's true. Market software accordingly and everything is fine.

I am glad to see cryptocat being much more careful with their wording.

Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

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post #36
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compare them to underground dentists - Bob has no medical training, but has a dremel and practiced on a pig head. He offers to do a filling for his pal. He makes a bit of a botch of it, but he larns from his mistake and carries on. Dentistry is important so it's admirable that Bob ignores the criticism. Bob's first pal is currently fighting off a severe infection, but Bob uses that as a learning experience. Bob will…

Except, this is software. My favorite expression when things get heated: "Nobody is going to die." There are exceptions, of course, but a vast majority of the work we do just doesn't matter in the context of life and nature.

And one of those exceptions is people trying to use bad crypto to avoid persecution...

Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

#39

Easy to be snarky about this. But I admire their persistence. In the face of the extensive criticism they could have just given up. Instead they have acknowledged making mistakes, didn't give up, learnt from the mistake and changed their subsequent behavior. This is admirable.

I know, it's like they never heard of the term "security through obscurity"

Re: Cryptocat for iPhone and Android – Call for Review

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post #36
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compare them to underground dentists - Bob has no medical training, but has a dremel and practiced on a pig head. He offers to do a filling for his pal. He makes a bit of a botch of it, but he larns from his mistake and carries on. Dentistry is important so it's admirable that Bob ignores the criticism. Bob's first pal is currently fighting off a severe infection, but Bob uses that as a learning experience. Bob will…

Except, this is software. My favorite expression when things get heated: "Nobody is going to die." There are exceptions, of course, but a vast majority of the work we do just doesn't matter in the context of life and nature.

Unfortunately, I don't think the 'Nobody is going to die' statement holds up for software like cryptocat. If it is promoted as secure, then it could be used in areas with hostile regimes. For example, members of the Arab Spring uprising might have trusted cryptocat, but what if their governments were intercepting and decrypting those messages due to a flaw in the software?

Bottom line, explaining away problems by saying 'nobody is going to die' is a downright dangerous statement IMO.

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