Does this mean we can finally stop referring to RedHat as an unnamed "Prominent North American Enterprise Linux Vendor"?
I used North American Vendor of Enterprise Linux - NAVEL - but it never caught on in time... :/
CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
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Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#32Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
The absolute worst that can happen is a return to the state of today. Also, CentOS didn't do anything new and creative and visionary that all. Their goal from the beginning was to replicate RHEL with all the non-free bits (mostly artwork and trademarks) replaced.
The concern isn't to have anything new and creative. That's not always the goal of OSS. The goal is the have free and open equal alternatives to corporate-controlled software. Debian, for example, is likely the last of the truly unencumbered distros.
What about Slackware, Gentoo, Arch...?
Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#34In the beginning, there was Red Hat Linux[1]. It was sold in boxes at stores such as CompUSA (remember?) but was also available for free download from Red Hat. Then, Red Hat decided they could make more money by spinning off Red Hat Linux into a separate enterprise-only product called Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), which they declined to make available for free in a ready-to-install binary form. Fedora[2] was also…
I wonder if they are also doing this so they can get an idea of who the user base of CentOS is and also try to convert them to paying customers.
Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
The absolute worst that can happen is a return to the state of today. Also, CentOS didn't do anything new and creative and visionary that all. Their goal from the beginning was to replicate RHEL with all the non-free bits (mostly artwork and trademarks) replaced.
The concern isn't to have anything new and creative. That's not always the goal of OSS. The goal is the have free and open equal alternatives to corporate-controlled software. Debian, for example, is likely the last of the truly unencumbered distros.
Tell me what CentOS will no longer be able to do that they could previously.
Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
The concern isn't to have anything new and creative. That's not always the goal of OSS. The goal is the have free and open equal alternatives to corporate-controlled software. Debian, for example, is likely the last of the truly unencumbered distros.
Tell me what CentOS will no longer be able to do that they could previously.
The idea is to have a distro with no "corporate" oversight -- an independent distro. This is the reasons why I heavily lean Debian and OpenBSD, because they are independent.
Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#37I am not sure if i feel happy or not about this. I just hope they don't go the Fedora way on mangling, moving and changing everything around with every iteration. I don't see what interest has RH into Centos except for trying to disrupt the base and push that way more businesses and customers to RH. Maybe i'm just biased but Centos is doing pretty good in my opinion except maybe the late code changes and updates.
> I just hope they don't go the Fedora way on mangling, moving and changing everything around with every iteration. Why would they? CentOS is RHEL, they'll ship whatever RHEL ships.
RH may try to cripple CentOS, gather user statistics or advertise to promote more consumption of RHEL instead.
"Keep your friends close, ..." because it's just business.
Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tell me what CentOS will no longer be able to do that they could previously.
The idea is to have a distro with no "corporate" oversight -- an independent distro. This is the reasons why I heavily lean Debian and OpenBSD, because they are independent.
I'm trying to get you to describe your reasoning about what actually differs if a corporation is involved. "Independent" is not in itself a word that confers any benefit.
Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#39In the beginning, there was Red Hat Linux[1]. It was sold in boxes at stores such as CompUSA (remember?) but was also available for free download from Red Hat. Then, Red Hat decided they could make more money by spinning off Red Hat Linux into a separate enterprise-only product called Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), which they declined to make available for free in a ready-to-install binary form. Fedora[2] was also…
Red Hat is one of the most prolific single-entity contributors to open source in the history of open source. I find it really odd that some FOSS people regard Red Hat as some sort of evil corporation that should be the target of said FOSS people's flung shit.
By the way, what did Firefox do to live down its IceWeasel[1] infamy?
Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I just hope they don't go the Fedora way on mangling, moving and changing everything around with every iteration. Why would they? CentOS is RHEL, they'll ship whatever RHEL ships.
RH may try to cripple CentOS, gather user statistics or advertise to promote more consumption of RHEL instead. "Keep your friends close, ..." because it's just business.
More likely they'll provide a more official way to convert CentOS to RHEL and buy a support contract. It's always been possible, and many people use CentOS with the understanding that if anything get really crazy, they can do just that an buy support.