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#31
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"Don't be evil" Rapgenius got punished for playing the game better than anyone else. Who's to say this couldn't happen to highly relevant sources of information? Wikipedia? Underground sites? This is the equivalent of censorship.

I think they got punished for playing the game worse than anyone else.

Blackhat SEO out in the open is not a good game.

Re: Rapgenius Uniques Fall 90%

#32
post #5

"Don't be evil" Rapgenius got punished for playing the game better than anyone else. Who's to say this couldn't happen to highly relevant sources of information? Wikipedia? Underground sites? This is the equivalent of censorship.

> Rapgenius got punished for playing the game better than anyone else.

I'm sorry, what? Didn't they lose the game?

Re: Rapgenius Uniques Fall 90%

#33
post #5

"Don't be evil" Rapgenius got punished for playing the game better than anyone else. Who's to say this couldn't happen to highly relevant sources of information? Wikipedia? Underground sites? This is the equivalent of censorship.

What? The "game" RapGenius played was the act of being evil .

the act of being evil.

Let's get some perspective here. They were offering to promote people's pages in return for them linking back to them. Far from being evil, this isn't even illegal.

Re: Rapgenius Uniques Fall 90%

#34

It's quite painful to watch these guys take this beating. What they've done wasn't nice, but the consequences are extreme. What is most concerning is the monopoly Google Search has over driving traffic/revenue for most sites.

They are the sleeze of the startup world, why is it so painful to watch?

I'll leave you this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAzQPll7Lo

"Homie-source" "baller-source"

Yep, let em' burn.

Re: Rapgenius Uniques Fall 90%

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no execution going on. They knowingly engaged in blackhat SEO. Now they are paying the rather well-known penalty. They need to wait it out while that penalty is active (likely slimming down their burn rate) and focus on gaining customers through other avenues. Or kill their brand and reboot as a different one with a different URL on a different IP.

Do not underestimate domain age/link age in calculation of pr. Moving to a brand new domain would forfeit all of that.

Not to mention all inbound links.

Re: Rapgenius Uniques Fall 90%

#38

Ok, how can Rap Genius recover from this? They're one of the best (and least shady) lyrics sites on the net. They acted immorally, yes, but is justifiable to summarily execute their company? Google has a domineering position in the market, and it's a bit ironic that people were quick to call for Microsoft to be split into multiple companies about a decade ago, yet nobody bats an eye when Google exercises their power.…

Maybe name and domain change?

That puts them at PR0, too.

Re: Rapgenius Uniques Fall 90%

#39

Not only is this bad for RapGenius, it's bad for Google, and most importantly bad for Google's users. Yes, RapGenius screwed up, and they've paid the price. But they've publicly recognized what they did and apologized. Google really should reinstate their ranking, because people searching for lyrics right now are being given the huge disservice of using the ultra-spammy lyrics sites from days of yore.

The hell-banning will probably only be temporary (30 to 60 days).

And RG didn't just "screw up" by trying to game the system; they were blatantly cocky about it, so that's probably why Google felt they needed to step in and teach them a thing or two. Let's hope the lesson sticks, at least.

Re: Rapgenius Uniques Fall 90%

#40
post #5

"Don't be evil" Rapgenius got punished for playing the game better than anyone else. Who's to say this couldn't happen to highly relevant sources of information? Wikipedia? Underground sites? This is the equivalent of censorship.

First, you don't understand what censorship is. Second, RapGenius cheated the system. They knew they were cheating the system. They violated the public guidelines that tell you not to cheat the system. And now they are paying the price. Why is that so difficult to grasp?

In addition, they had no furtiveness; it appeared they thought this was something that required no concealment. I'm guessing they don't have a media relations employee, because any decent quality control would have said direct emails from @rapgenius to random folk about a seedy scheme aren't the best idea. At least a proxy should have been used..

Their emails were wanton risk, the wording had no stealth; they got what they deserved.

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