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Haiku meets 9th processor

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Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost as if you've never heard of hobbyist OS development.

$41,500 was spent paying developers to work on Haiku in 2013: http://www.haiku-inc.org/funded-development.html This is way past "hobbyist OS".

$41k isn't much, was split between two developers, and most every penny of that came from community donations.

Maybe it's out of hobbyist status, but this is still far far below how much Be spent developing BeOS each year.

Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$41,500 was spent paying developers to work on Haiku in 2013: http://www.haiku-inc.org/funded-development.html This is way past "hobbyist OS".

$41k isn't much, was split between two developers, and most every penny of that came from community donations. Maybe it's out of hobbyist status, but this is still far far below how much Be spent developing BeOS each year.

Nobody is saying it's unreasonable amount or shouldn't have been spent, and I consider the money's origin utterly irrelevant. But it is not a trivial amount of money. Unless he moved recently, I believe Ingo Weinhold lives in Germany. His income for this year just from Haiku work exceeds the median German household income. I'm sure he's not working at market rate, but he could be said to be making a living off it.

My one and only point is that you can't say Haiku is just a hobbyist OS. That's simply not a reasonable answer to the question of what its purpose is. It's just dismissive and insulting to the person who asked the question.

Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

#34

I guess I'm not surprised. 100% discussion about whether Haiku deserves to exist, zero discussion about the post. Can anyone talk about the significance of the removal of the hard processor limit?

Everyone is an OS consumer. Far fewer are running Haiku on a 9+ core server. Write what you know.

To be fair, the scheduling might matter if a reader considered writing a library for Haiku. Can't game the system by surrendering a lock before the slice ends anymore. :-B

Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

#35
I've been using Haiku since around 2009, and while I've no experience with BeOS itself (I'm far too young), I adore it. It's such a well thought out and designed system, right down to the APIs. Heck at this point, I'm tempted to use it for all my dev work (server side), as I enjoy using it so much. It lacks the quirks linux has across distros (somewhat an unfair comparison, as haiku has one distro and that's it), while being super quick and a joy to use. It's truly a desktop operating system, which I think is a good thing. It's like an unpolished, open source Mac OS in that way. The multicore and scheduler work being done is going to be handy for taking advantage of new computers.

Now building a desktop OS is a an odd niche. At this point, all of us live on the web, and the desktop matters little, as we have the move towards mobile OSes, and the integration of mobile features into our operating systems. If we ever see a move back towards more "traditional" desktop OS paradigms, perhaps Haiku will see more use, but for now it's community is small, passionate, and fun. I don't think it will ever be big, but one can dream right? :)

Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

#36
post #9

I have a fantasy that 20 years from now, Haiku will be the operating system of choice for hackers with design sensibilities (NB: I didn't say graphic design ) who want a powerful, flexible, programmable OS that just works and requires minimal configuration. This niche is currently filled by OSX, but I think it's slowly falling out of favor because of Apple's increasing focus on the end user and "iOSifying" everything…

It reminds me of BSD in some ways: small, focused, albeit on the desktop instead of the server. I love using it, and have a VM running alpha 4 on every computer I own!

Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

#37

I guess I'm not surprised. 100% discussion about whether Haiku deserves to exist, zero discussion about the post. Can anyone talk about the significance of the removal of the hard processor limit?

It's good to remove hardcoded limits, but everything I see in this post looks like it was implemented in Linux and FreeBSD years ago. I'm sure this has been discussed somewhere, but it's not that clear why Haiku has its own kernel at all.

Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

#38

I'm left wondering what the advantage of using haiku would be over fedora, ubuntu, mint, or debian?

It's a nice UNIX with a cohesive environment and design (both in terms of software and UI) philosophy. Other than than there aren't a lot of "advantages" because its alpha software.

Maybe check out some BeOS R5 videos, they were doing some really cool stuff before they went under!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggCODBIfWKY

Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

#39
post #9

I have a fantasy that 20 years from now, Haiku will be the operating system of choice for hackers with design sensibilities (NB: I didn't say graphic design ) who want a powerful, flexible, programmable OS that just works and requires minimal configuration. This niche is currently filled by OSX, but I think it's slowly falling out of favor because of Apple's increasing focus on the end user and "iOSifying" everything…

I'm in the same position! I've been following Haiku since it was first announced, and I'm waiting for the day when it can replace OS X.

Re: Haiku meets 9th processor

#40
post #37

I guess I'm not surprised. 100% discussion about whether Haiku deserves to exist, zero discussion about the post. Can anyone talk about the significance of the removal of the hard processor limit?

It's good to remove hardcoded limits, but everything I see in this post looks like it was implemented in Linux and FreeBSD years ago. I'm sure this has been discussed somewhere, but it's not that clear why Haiku has its own kernel at all.

Because it can. Also, because doing things differently is fun. It's API is something to behold, and besides, would you say the same thing about Plan 9, or BSD, etc?
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