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Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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Been working from home from the end of 1999 on and off up until the middle of 2012. 1) This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGg1567fzTY (almost posted anonymously). Deal with it :) 2) If you have a family or a partner. Just because you are at home does not mean "can you just put on a wash". Build rules into engaging with the family. You are working. You are not to be disturbed. If you choose to 'come out' of your offi…

"This video is not available." :(

Ah the joys of worldwide copyright management. Somebody else linked another copy of it that you should be able to view.

It succinctly covers the issue of "masturbation at work" because, if you work from home, suddenly you can. :)

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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awjr has put all the points and they are worth following.

I will only emphasize that never think you are working from home. Always assume you are working as if from another building than your own home. And always act as if you are in that building.

The moment you realize, you are in your own home, it would get harder for you to stick to the 'normal business routine'.

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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I have to challenge the premise that most of the responders have taken, which is that working on a daily schedule is "better".

On the contrary, I find that my work habits are a lot like yours -- and I think that's a good thing! Sometimes I will be possessed by a coding demon and crank out work for days (weeks?) on end. Other times I will putter around watching TV or brainstorming ideas.

For me the whole point of being self-employed was to NOT have to show up to an office (or home office) and work 9-5 every single day. A creative human brain is a rare and marvelous creature, and we understand very little about how it works. I think the best thing to do is to let it run around and work when it feels like working, or read a book when it feels like reading a book. I personally find my creativity withers away under a strict work regimen.

If your work is not creative and you're just grinding it out for money every day, then by all means, follow the advice in the other posts. But if your work requires imagination and making unexpected mental connections, then don't worry too much about "efficiency". As long as you're thinking about something related to work most of the time, over the long run your real productivity will exceed that of all those poor saps who measure output as a function of mindless hours in front of a computer.

Embracing your "lazy" side requires a certain amount of courage, but if you can make ends meet while doing it, you'll be happier and end up doing better creative work. In any event, don't worry too much about how most people say they do things. Do what feels right to you. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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One thing to note is that being self-employed doesn't mean you need to work from home. I always had trouble staying focused at home, and since I have kids working from home is almost impossible for me. I now rent a desk in a shared office, and I work regular hours. I work 9-4 four days a week. I leave my laptop at work, so I can't do anything except answer the occasional email from home (when the kids let me). It mak…

I like the idea of leaving the laptop at the shared work place. So often I get the laptop out in the evening, and end up feeling a little burnt out. Just knowing you won't have your laptop at home I think must really help focus.

Yeah, I often really get into "the zone" when I look at the clock and I see that I promised to be home in an hour. It's amazing how you stop wasting time when you have less.

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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Been working from home from the end of 1999 on and off up until the middle of 2012. 1) This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGg1567fzTY (almost posted anonymously). Deal with it :) 2) If you have a family or a partner. Just because you are at home does not mean "can you just put on a wash". Build rules into engaging with the family. You are working. You are not to be disturbed. If you choose to 'come out' of your offi…

I've been working from home for 8 months this last year and point 2 was the biggest pain. Even after setting some initial rules, there was this almost imperceptible but continous pressure to do stuff just because you were at home. It's hard to stop because every little request or exception looks perfectly reasonable and is asked in good faith, so you feel like a jerk if you invoke the rules at every chance. The pressure kept building up to the point that I was always irritable and it was hard to get any work done if I had a chore or errand in the horizon that day. So at the end I was glad to go back to the office.

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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awjr did a great job answering your question. I just want to add 2 more things that help me:

1. Get out of the house to work, at least occasionally. I find I'm often most productive working in a coffee shop or at a Panera Bread type restaurant (no waiters, free wifi).

2. Don't quit immediately after finishing off a feature. Start working on a new feature and then quit for the day. This one is big. Whenever I do this, I find my mind continuously returning to the new problem and coming up with ideas on how to solve it. At that point getting back to work the next day is easier than not.

Finally don't stress out too much about what hours you work. Sometimes I work in the morning. Sometimes I work at night. I work around spending time with my son, which is what makes me happiest. That's the best part of being self employed - having a flexible schedule that let's you maximize all of the activities you enjoy most.

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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I've successfully worked from home as a developer since 2001, most of which was in a 450 square foot apartment with roommates in a very noisy part of Brooklyn. Now I'm in a far more comfortable 2 bedroom with a view in Seattle with a separate bedroom as an office (and a door!), but my career was defined in that tiny shoebox of apartment.

First and foremost, boundaries are necessary. This is both for you and for the people around you. You don't have to explicitly work 8 hours in a row every day, but whenever it is that you choose to work every day, disruptions should be completely closed off.

This means if you have roommates, they need to know that when you're working, you're not listening and impossible to distract. For me, this has proven far more difficult with significant others who have lived with me. I have lost a couple long term relationships with women who did not understand this, and the woman with whom I'm now engaged not only appreciates this this very important invisible wall, but helps me maintain it.

Same goes for other outside distractions. It would be weird if your friends dropped into your 9-5 job and sat on the couch, cracked a beer and started playing video games, or if they called your office line every 20 minutes to try to convince you to head out for whatever might be going on. This same limitation needs to be set at your home. If necessary, maintain a separate lines of communication between work and personal life (phone, IM, skype, email, etc) to make sure that while you're working, you can concentrate on only communicating with work associates, and the opposite is just as important - when you're enjoying your life, leave work to your office space.

And if your home office is in a distracting neighborhood (as mine very much was when I was living in Brooklyn), turn some music on, wear some headphones, find a coffee shop, or rent some office space somewhere quieter. Depending on where you are, it's not difficult to find a company that happens to have an extra desk or two and is willing to rent one out at a fair price.

Give yourself a great office space that you look forward to spending your days in. Mine was a corner of a room that was sometimes also a bedroom and sometimes also a living room. But it was the most well kept at all times. Three monitors, a quiet and fast computer, a comfortable chair, interesting art on my wall, a great keyboard and mouse, a relatively clean desk, a decent coffee maker, great stereo system, studio-quality headphones, high speed expensive internet, and a giant roll of paper with some markers that I could brainstorm or play with whenever necessary.

I've read some other great responses here about exercise, and eating right and so on. I agree with all of the above, but I didn't bother with such things until the past 5 years. I never exercised, I worked stupidly long hours (occasionally 36 hour days), I ate crap, I partied at all hours, and I'd never set a schedule. I began changing a lot of that in the past five years or so. I now limit myself to 16 hours in a day (but usually keep my limit to 8) and I exercise more and I eat better. But I do those things because I turned 30 and realized 9 years of random debauchery and no exercise do not do much for ones health and figure. I'd be a liar if I told you I did that during the most crucially defining portion of my remote career.

As for the Real Motivation. All of the above and all the advice in this thread, and all the advice I've read elsewhere (and mostly ignored) about remote working have no competition with this one single point. What has motivated me more than anything in the world: Challenging Work at High wages. I always needed at least one of the two or the project would definitely fail, but having both ensured that I'd always find the time, energy, and space to get the work done well, efficiently, with great communication. The office space didn't matter. The noise didn't matter. The schedule _Definitely_ didn't matter. I was unstoppable provided I had Work that I couldn't possibly tear myself away from and a sizable check at the starting and finish lines to help keep my life in order.

Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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post #26

One thing to note is that being self-employed doesn't mean you need to work from home. I always had trouble staying focused at home, and since I have kids working from home is almost impossible for me. I now rent a desk in a shared office, and I work regular hours. I work 9-4 four days a week. I leave my laptop at work, so I can't do anything except answer the occasional email from home (when the kids let me). It mak…

>I leave my laptop at work, so I can't do anything except answer the occasional email from home (when the kids let me).

I never thought of that. I am strongly considering a coworking space just to try this.

My only issue is that I sometimes do Skype consulting in the evenings, after my clients are done work (I'm a tutor). I would have to schedule those in blocks and have my laptop home for those blocks only.

What's security like for your laptop at work?

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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post #14

Been working from home from the end of 1999 on and off up until the middle of 2012. 1) This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGg1567fzTY (almost posted anonymously). Deal with it :) 2) If you have a family or a partner. Just because you are at home does not mean "can you just put on a wash". Build rules into engaging with the family. You are working. You are not to be disturbed. If you choose to 'come out' of your offi…

I'd add, if possible, work directly with others as much as possible. Consider renting some space in a startup incubator, just so you get some interaction going.
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