Google is NOTHING like Bell Labs. Bell did real research, not research that had a ROI counter tied to it. Google researches what makes Google money - period. If this is the current generations "hero", then we're doomed.
Don't be silly, all research done by companies has an ROI counter tied to it . . . the point is that some do much more forward thinking research into technologies that might not yet have a specific application quite yet, and others are focused 2-3 years in advance and that's it.
Google is the new Bell Labs
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Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#32I really don't understand the Apple hate boner. Apple may have single handedly jump started the mobile industry, and is the godfather of huge apps like Facebook, Twitter, Vine, Instagram , Snapchat, Uber, Square, Candy Crush, the last few that have been causing major problems for major incumbents. Now what platforms has Google built that is changing the game for everyone else? You have YouTube and thats pretty much i…
The point isn't necessarily what has come to pass yet, it's the focus on things that don't necessarily have a path to revenue yet. Everything Apple does is product and revenue focused. That is not the case with Google.
You are right that 95% of their revenue comes from Adwords . . . but 95% of their efforts aren't on optimizing Adwords, and that right there is my point: Apple is focused on executing where their revenue is, Google is definitely MORE focused on finding new revenue opportunities, and is more willing to look into unorthodox industries and ideas.
Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#33This is a pretty broad generalization. Not to mention, just because Google has better advertising and promotion of its new ideas and research, I'd not discount Apple, IBM or Microsoft. If anyone, IBM has consecutively stood the test of time with new innovations and inventions. World changing.
Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#34I really don't understand the Apple hate boner. Apple may have single handedly jump started the mobile industry, and is the godfather of huge apps like Facebook, Twitter, Vine, Instagram , Snapchat, Uber, Square, Candy Crush, the last few that have been causing major problems for major incumbents. Now what platforms has Google built that is changing the game for everyone else? You have YouTube and thats pretty much i…
I'd say that makes all the difference.
Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#35I really don't understand the Apple hate boner. Apple may have single handedly jump started the mobile industry, and is the godfather of huge apps like Facebook, Twitter, Vine, Instagram , Snapchat, Uber, Square, Candy Crush, the last few that have been causing major problems for major incumbents. Now what platforms has Google built that is changing the game for everyone else? You have YouTube and thats pretty much i…
Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#36When I was growing up in Silicon Valley traffic was light, places were far, and there was nothing in between.
Silicon Valley was rarely the place you wanted to be, we all wanted out having been here our whole lives. We wanted New York, we wanted Los Angeles, we wanted anywhere but here.
Over the years that has changed.
You ask most people that work at Google the significance of the Googleplex and no one will ever tell you about the prominence, about how it used to the rolling valleys housed the SGI buildings.
But day in, day out, the buses flow. The cars flow. Once you're on campus it's a different world. Everyone's busy, everyone has something important they're insisting on doing.
The whole of Mountain View, and in turn the surrounding suburban sprawl has been turned into the tiny steams coursing into Oak Ridge.
The highways are jammed. The roads are jammed. There are more lines. There are more people. All eager to do something important. Meals are provided, the buses are provided, the interns get their limos to go to the local hotels
Slowly but surely, we got our wish. Los Angeles came to us. New York came to us.
Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#37Bell Labs invented fundamental technology like the transistor and the laser. I wouldn't put Google Maps in that league. They did not invent autonomous vehicles or wearable computers, though they have made strides in commoditizing the technology.
I doubt that Google's research will have the same public benefit; it seems much more likely that Google will keep it for themselves.
Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#38Google is NOTHING like Bell Labs. Bell did real research, not research that had a ROI counter tied to it. Google researches what makes Google money - period. If this is the current generations "hero", then we're doomed.
Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#39Bell Labs invented fundamental technology like the transistor and the laser. I wouldn't put Google Maps in that league. They did not invent autonomous vehicles or wearable computers, though they have made strides in commoditizing the technology.
Less than ten years ago remotely controlled vehicles had a hard time driving in a straight line ten miles in the desert. Google's have now driven millions of accident free miles.
Granted they haven't tackled a Michigan snowstorm yet but I think you have to admit they pioneered this technology.
Re: Google is the new Bell Labs
#40Google is NOTHING like Bell Labs. Bell did real research, not research that had a ROI counter tied to it. Google researches what makes Google money - period. If this is the current generations "hero", then we're doomed.
Don't be silly, all research done by companies has an ROI counter tied to it . . . the point is that some do much more forward thinking research into technologies that might not yet have a specific application quite yet, and others are focused 2-3 years in advance and that's it.
At present, PARC (no longer under Xerox) operates on something of an agency model and Google runs research projects like startups. This appears to result in a higher rate of short-term commercial success, but at the cost of fundamental research. That said, I think we've done a tremendous amount of fundamental research since World War II and now that the conditions for producing more no longer exist, there's plenty of low-hanging fruit – new configurations of things that already exist – hence the prevalence of startups and the perceived excellence of hybrid research models.