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Open Source Personal Finance Manager

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Re: Open Source Personal Finance Manager

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Missing the "Cloud - based" part I think... I agree with the idea of a free/open finance manager - definitely when it connects to the bank through online services. I wrote a GPL'd finance app for OS X a few years ago, and tried to add online banking support, but other than OFX HTTP download, there didn't seem to be any standard specification for it at the time other than screen-scraping, which I don't think counts, s…

The last place I want my personal finance details is in "the cloud".

This is an open source project designed to be hosted on one of the "personal cloud" platforms that you can run yourself on your own hardware, or if you want, run on a VPS that you trust. That eliminates many of the concerns that people generally have about "the cloud," while still giving you the convenience of having it web-accessible from anywhere you want to check it.

Re: Open Source Personal Finance Manager

#34

Nice but I really dislike the website for this. I don't know if there is a term for that design but I hope it doesn't become popular.

Too late. It has already become popular. These are "better" versions of it http://www.google.com/nexus/5/ , http://www.android.com/kitkat/ . I call it "powerpoint style design" and it has all the drawbacks of powerpoint slides (http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/powerpoint)... some stupidities just refuse to die.

Re: Open Source Personal Finance Manager

#36
post #28

But I would give my bank credentials to Zuckerberg (say we meet at a restaurant in Palo Alto and he asks for it). The asymmetry of the situation means that he will lose much more than the meager amount in my account if he steals the money. So that questions is rather silly. I understand that the question really means "give you credentials to Facebook", where Facebook is proxy to any big company. This is a harder ques…

I spent the better part of a year and a half on the premise that consumers care about data ownership. Spoiler alert, they don't. It's a similar concept in terms of what hackers tend to value.

There is a (small) niche of people that care about this stuff. But I can't help but feel that we, as hackers, try to communicate why others should care. Perhaps they should, I don't know. But what I do know is that they don't.

We end up wasting precious time and energy trying to convince someone who blatantly trusts Facebook that they should not. And we use phrases like "a company that's business is to sell your data".

I agree completely with you and after having worked at a large company (Yahoo!) on their security team I can confidently say that your data is safer with a large company than on some small or even self hosted software.

I'm not trying to convince hackers not to hack. I'm saying to not waste time convincing the general population. Scratch your itch and find the niche that actually cares about what you're building and talk their language.

Re: Open Source Personal Finance Manager

#37
post #22

Nice but I really dislike the website for this. I don't know if there is a term for that design but I hope it doesn't become popular.

I might give Zuck my bank credentials but I would have no trust whatsoever in some random .cc site (whose demo doesn't work).

yep, but it is open and you can self host your Cozy. So far you can't say the same of FB :-)

Re: Open Source Personal Finance Manager

#38
post #28

But I would give my bank credentials to Zuckerberg (say we meet at a restaurant in Palo Alto and he asks for it). The asymmetry of the situation means that he will lose much more than the meager amount in my account if he steals the money. So that questions is rather silly. I understand that the question really means "give you credentials to Facebook", where Facebook is proxy to any big company. This is a harder ques…

The risk is not that Zuck might steal your money.

The problem is that he will have an always more accurate profile of you. Your incomes/expenses tell a lot about you, some info that interest a lot of people...

The consequence is that FB will sell your always more accurate profile (or give it to the NSA :-)

Re: Open Source Personal Finance Manager

#39
post #23

First OSS PFM? Really? http://skrooge.org/ http://www.gnucash.org/ http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/ ...

all those are desktop applications and don't all get your data back automatically from your bank...

Here we speak of an open source alternative to Mint, not to Money :-)

Re: Open Source Personal Finance Manager

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

...or kmymoney?

...or grisbi?

On your desktop, they counted. But in the cloud, as an open alternative to Mint, they don't :-)

The value here is that you can get your bank informations, aggregated on you personal server, for free and on a platform you can hack...

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