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Governments admit to faking terrorism: a list
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#32Not to diminish the issue, but many items were not 'governments' but rather members of govt covering up errors.
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#33A lot of people's jobs in the military is to come up with plans like these. The point is that we're not actually doing them most of the time. The fact that a US senator once proposed a false flag does not make this official US policy. If we had to take everything every member of congress said as scripture, we'd have bombed every country in the world by now. There are a lot of disturbing stuff in this list, but the fa…
>The point is that we're not actually doing them most of the time. I agree, but is that really knowable? By definition, the successfully done ones aren't known, right? Not that it's a reason to dive into conspiracy theories.
I'm maybe too much of an optimist , but I've always felt like we're(Americans) a bit less realpolitik than the rest of the world, and that if it were to come to shooting Americans for political gain, somebody would say something. I think the biggest proof is in the Snowden revelations, american politicians seem to be the only ones complaining about their own country's systems. We seem to have a good culture of protecting government institutions above politics, even if our politics end up being pretty shitty anyways. Other countries are loud about the leaks, but only to hit on other countries. I've heard nobody in France complain about the DGSE's complete unfettered usage of everyone's data.
I'm also of the opinion that there are enough incompetent people in every part of the government that we'd somehow end up hearing about it anyways.
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#34This is a tried and true tactic. It would take extensive use of brainwashing and belief in fairy tales about an enlightened government, a city on hill exceptional-ism or what-have-you to think these don't happen. However, this level of brainwashing is achieved in US quite often. It is a lot worse vis-a-vis the rhetoric of independence, free thinking, individualism. But that in an of itself (this belief that we are no…
they realize what they have to do in their jobs contradicts the high idealized patriotic beliefs of what this country is about
This is extremely uncommon.
For example, I used to be a submarine officer in the Navy, and I left as a conscientious objector because of this realization. In an average year, less than 100 active duty service members will apply for conscientious objector status (there are over 1 million active duty personnel). If you take a look at [this graph](http://izbicki.me/blog/most-conscientious-objectors-are-not-...) based on GAO data, you'll see that the number of conscientious objector applications dropped significantly after September 11th. This is despite the fact that the wars afterward have been much more controversial and less just.
Why is [NSA moral] low?
I'd bet it's not because of any ethical conflicts. Instead, it's because 100s of man-years of work is going out the window. One of their own betrayed them. This would be demoralizing even for the most ethically unquestionable teams.
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#35I'm surprised they missed this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_%28testimony%29
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#36loving the fake Hitler quote
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#37I don't see the recent "secret weapons" in Iraq thing.
You mean the recent "secret weapons" in Syria thing? [0]
[0]= http://www.lrb.co.uk/2013/12/08/seymour-m-hersh/whose-sarin
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#38This article is very 'unpatriotic' ... I don't think normal god fearing individuals with so much power would even think to do these horrible things.
Time for my 'delusion' pills ... ;)
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#39It is actually incredibly easy to see how smart people tasked with solving complicated societal problems arrive at false flag operations as a viable solution: Imagine you have a credible imminent threat to your society posted by a danger to which the society is not familiar enough with to fully grasp and take seriously. Do you wait for the threat to play out and take your chances with the society sufficiently changin…
You are describing any terrorism here.
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#40It's really just the tip of the iceberg. How many "terrorists" has the FBI arrested where the FBI delivered the plan, the motivation, contacts and most importantly, the explosives? They are actively fabricating terrorist plots.
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