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An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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My opinion: IPv6 is used by nobody, nobody cares about IPv6 except for us tech nerds and in five years it will still be nowhere. But still, nice if you want to try it out and test with it.

> nobody cares about IPv6 except for us tech nerds Nobody cares that your app is written in Rails of NodeJS. People care that it works and does what matters to them. IPv4 is doomed to not work at some point so we "tech nerds" have to care and do something about it. > IPv6 is used by nobody From the top of my mind, many of the french ISPs have IPv6 ready on the customer side, a radio button click away, while some are…

> From the top of my mind, many of the french ISPs have IPv6 ready on the customer side, a radio button click away, while some are even on by default.

I think this is one of the key points that certain people end up missing.

Windows Vista and later can do IPv6 by default, recent versions of OS X will do it by default as well. All an ISP needs to do is send a user a router which can handle IPv6 traffic - and suddenly the entire network will start doing IPv6 traffic with places like Google who are IPv6 ready.

It will just happen! Add the IPv6 ready equipment and the traffic will flow. The only problem is certain ISPs who are still stuck with their heads in sand, not providing IPv6 connectivity, and still providing customers equipment which can't deal with IPv6 traffic - some of which might not be possible to upgrade.

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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Unrelated to the ipv6 subject, but does anyone else just find the whole concept of "credits" that gandi is using absolutely irritating? I know that it lists "or about $xx.xx per month" next to the credit cost, but why in the hell even have the credits in the first place? It's easier to just use the actual costs in the customer's local currency than have them try and figure out what exactly a credit/"coin" is worth.

According to [1] French law means they can't store credit card information or directly debit bank accounts. So I can see why a prepay account would appeal to them.

[1] http://wiki.gandi.net/en/billing/faq/direct-debit

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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> "RIPE, the organization in charge of delegating IP addresses in Europe, ended the distribution of new IPv4 blocks about a year ago." This is not true. All new LIRs can still receive a /22 - http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/resource-management/allocat...

Subject to conditions:

> This means that an LIR can only receive a one-time /22 allocation (1,024 IPv4 addresses) if it can justify the need and already has an IPv6 allocation

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

#38

Unrelated to the ipv6 subject, but does anyone else just find the whole concept of "credits" that gandi is using absolutely irritating? I know that it lists "or about $xx.xx per month" next to the credit cost, but why in the hell even have the credits in the first place? It's easier to just use the actual costs in the customer's local currency than have them try and figure out what exactly a credit/"coin" is worth.

This concept answers to many issues Gandi faced.

* Being "cloud-ish" and have a pay-as-you-go system * Computing a price to use a 256MB of RAM for 3 hours in real currency was too complicated (like, for example : 0.0000174€) * Having no surprise at the end of the month, as some hosting providers compute the global use and bill the consumption at the end of the month (you may have surprise) * Using credits, to create a new server, adding a new network interface, etc, you do not need to buy 'resources' like it was before * There are two interfaces : historic usage of credits by resources, display the credits consumption as what you use in real currency * No multiple expiration date by product/resource * ...

Many of those advantages are described here : http://wiki.gandi.net/en/iaas/references/billing/credits

As usual, any enhancement/improvement is welcome :-)

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

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I was going to post a link to Redstation, a UK hosting provider, whom offered a discount of £5/month (approx 10% for their cheapest server) if you took IPv6 only. However, it seems that option has now been pulled sadly!

>who~~m~~ offered a discount

Re: An IPv6-only VPS that costs less

#40

Unrelated to the ipv6 subject, but does anyone else just find the whole concept of "credits" that gandi is using absolutely irritating? I know that it lists "or about $xx.xx per month" next to the credit cost, but why in the hell even have the credits in the first place? It's easier to just use the actual costs in the customer's local currency than have them try and figure out what exactly a credit/"coin" is worth.

According to [1] French law means they can't store credit card information or directly debit bank accounts. So I can see why a prepay account would appeal to them. [1] http://wiki.gandi.net/en/billing/faq/direct-debit

we can not store, but we also do not want to store this information (credit card) for our customers safety

BUT, our bank does it for us, so you can now auto-credit your prepaid account using probe (no more credit, auto credit every month, ...)

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