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Re: Hawala

#31
"The word angadia means courier in Hindi, but also designates those who act as hawaladars within India. These people mostly act as a parallel banking system for businessmen. They charge a commission of around 0.2–0.5% per transaction from transferring money from one city to another."

<= Wow I remember as kid, going to an "Angadia" office with my dad to transfer money. Didn't understand any of it back then.

Re: Hawala

#34

I'm working on an RFC for an Internet protocol that works like Hawala: https://github.com/mleonhard/hipp

Have you heard of the Ripple 2-phase commit protocol?

Re: Hawala

#35
post #4

This is what bitcoin is great for and will be used for. Medium for transfering the purchasing power, not for storing it.

Actually, bitcoin as scarce money is pretty much as directly opposed to this as you can get. If you want to make a digital currency comparison it's more like Ripple's trust networks (minus the XRP).

Re: Hawala

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post #14

One important thing to know is that in islamic banking, interest or anything that exploits time value of money is considered usury, and is haraam (sinful). There exists a whole institution of islamic banking compliant with shariah law. From gift giving for usage of money such as hibah to good will repayment of debt such as qardul hassan where the debtor may repay more than the principal amount, islamic banking seeks…

It's hard for me to escape the feeling that Islamic banking replaces usury with hypocrisy, but I guess high-context Cultures could probably make the same argument in reverse.

Where's the hypocrisy in that? Perhaps I'm just being dense, but I fail to see the connection.

Re: Hawala

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post #7

I almost linked to this, too, in the "Western Union says Bitcoin is not ready for international transfer" discussion[1]. The interesting thing about Hawala is that it provides a ready source of liquidity in local currencies. If someone was to link the two (ie, a local Hawala agent accepted a Bitcoin transfer from an untrusted source, and then moved the money via the trusted Hawala network) then almost all the problem…

> If someone was to link the two (ie, a local Hawala agent accepted a Bitcoin transfer from an untrusted source, and then moved the money via the trusted Hawala network) then almost all the problems of Bitcoin would go away.

http://www.ripple.com

Re: Hawala

#38
post #33

So it's pretty much like Ripple. http://ripple.com

It's more like the original Ripple concept: https://classic.ripplepay.com/

Has the concept really changed since then?

https://ripple.com/how-ripple-works/

As far as I know, Ripple still works the same way as it did then.

Re: Hawala

#39

In india it is used extensively and very often, we some times call them "Aangadiya" they transfers the money for very little cost ex. i have sent 25K INR with only 50rs extra as charge, which is basically 0.2 percent. And its accuracy and speed is amazing.

>accuracy and speed // So by accuracy you mean reliability and not promptitude? Or are we speaking of people who do the math with an Abacus (etc)?

Re: Hawala

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post #14

One important thing to know is that in islamic banking, interest or anything that exploits time value of money is considered usury, and is haraam (sinful). There exists a whole institution of islamic banking compliant with shariah law. From gift giving for usage of money such as hibah to good will repayment of debt such as qardul hassan where the debtor may repay more than the principal amount, islamic banking seeks…

It used to be this way with/amoung Christians (in the middle ages). But non-Christians could lend to Christians. That meant Jews were able to lend to Christians.

People often did 'hacks' against it, such as using pawn shops. Many cities in Europe have a "Lombard Street" based on this ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lombard_banking )

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