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Why should we rise above it? What's wrong with estimating somebody's worth in dollars?
I've written and deleted about 3 attempts at answering that question, not happy with any of them and obviously I have to get my thoughts in order. It's quite the "question for the ages" : D I'll get back to you ...
Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
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Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
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Jobs and Apple have changed the world in so many ways. WTF have you done with your life?
Quit downmodding this guy. Jesus, I hate the downmod arrow. Here's some elucidation: http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north670.html Read it. Time is the great equalizer. Warren Buffett is worth ten thousand times more than you are, assuming you are worth $5 million. But he is 78 years old. Not many people would want to trade places with him, one for one. Steve Jobs is a better man than I'll ever be, but I'd rather be…
Why? Because he is famous? Because he is rich? Because he, debatably, has 'made the world a better place'? Screw all those default judgements based on cultural indoctrination. Why is it Good to be famous, rich, innovative, an effective leader, ...? As far as I'm concerned, Steve Jobs and Warren Buffett are no better than you or me when I consider what I think is important in life. Stop pressing culturally correct expectations and judgements on others. Develop your own code of ethics.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
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Well, as the saying goes: "If you invite the press for the wedding they will also cover the divorce" Steve Jobs invited the press to the wedding.
I am guessing it would also be reasonable to say it has a material affect on Apple as a publicly traded company, at least in the short term. And certainly the stock price. But I wish him the best, it seems too soon for him to be leaving this, and I am sure he has more he wants to do.
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Because it's basically placing monetary bets on another human being's health. Yeah, I know he's the key person, I know why they do it, I just think it's depressing that our society still hasn't risen above putting a dollar value on life.
Why should we rise above it? What's wrong with estimating somebody's worth in dollars?
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#35If this article had come out before, I think Apple would've taken a hit.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#36Bury this. Jobs's medical condition, whatever it is or was, is a private matter about which he has elected to not speak. He's met all reasonable obligations by announcing when he was going to be out and when he expected to return. The rest is small-minded gossip.
His health, thus, is of concern to Apple users and shareholders. And competitors too, but in a different, probably evil, way.
His health worries me too - and I am neither a heavy Apple user nor a shareholder, but I am deeply concerned about innovation in this market if he ever retires. Who would lead? Microsoft? Ewww.
And there is also the human factor. I wish him well for no other reason than him being a human being.
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How is it cynical to price the health of an organization's key person into its value?
Because it's basically placing monetary bets on another human being's health. Yeah, I know he's the key person, I know why they do it, I just think it's depressing that our society still hasn't risen above putting a dollar value on life.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#38Bury this. Jobs's medical condition, whatever it is or was, is a private matter about which he has elected to not speak. He's met all reasonable obligations by announcing when he was going to be out and when he expected to return. The rest is small-minded gossip.
Jobs is a figure of mythic proportions who is of keen interest to technologists, entrepreneurs, and the general public. He's been featured in movies; books have been written about him; he's granted the media many levels of access, from photos through interviews, to boost his products. That attention can't be turned off like a spigot. Even if Jobs weren't still actively involved in Apple, people would be deeply intere…
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#39Bury this. Jobs's medical condition, whatever it is or was, is a private matter about which he has elected to not speak. He's met all reasonable obligations by announcing when he was going to be out and when he expected to return. The rest is small-minded gossip.
Steve Jobs is a public figure and is perceived as the creative driving force behind Apple's success, and Apple is a publicly-traded company. His health, thus, is of concern to Apple users and shareholders. And competitors too, but in a different, probably evil, way. His health worries me too - and I am neither a heavy Apple user nor a shareholder, but I am deeply concerned about innovation in this market if he ever r…
Jon Rubenstein? I think the Palm Pre is of the same calibre in terms of innovation and ease of use as any Apple product. I'd like to see what Palm could do with Jon at the helm, and the same resources as Apple.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#40Bury this. Jobs's medical condition, whatever it is or was, is a private matter about which he has elected to not speak. He's met all reasonable obligations by announcing when he was going to be out and when he expected to return. The rest is small-minded gossip.
Well, as the saying goes: "If you invite the press for the wedding they will also cover the divorce" Steve Jobs invited the press to the wedding.
Apple does not rely on Jobs' public profile for success. Yes, they do rely on his ability as a driver of innovation, but if Jobs were never to say a word in public again, it wouldn't seem to hurt Apple (at least, that's my opinion, having watched the last keynote without him). As such, I don't think Jobs has traded on publicity for his success, and can consequently reasonably request that we leave his private life alone.
Meh.