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Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

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Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#31
I don't mind doing a puzzle to get a job in a good company as I already did. If you think you shouldn't do the puzzle but you still were interested on working for Facebook, you could have said: I don't have the time to solve the puzzle however I have more than 10 hours of contribution on my github, I still wanna work for Facebook, what's the next step?

Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#32
This post comes off kind of douchey. Sympathies evaporated once you started mentioning slavery. Factory workers in South East Asia might have a slightly different opinion on what constitutes slavery.

You could've had some fun with the challenge. E.g. Write a piece of code that draws a massive middle finger on the screen. That would've been a cooler response!

Here's how I responded to a small company that was trying to make me jump through (unnecessary) hoops: http://www.andrewdyster.com/how-to-fill-out-selection-criter...

(These guys were a small 3-4 man operation, not a mega corp. My way of telling them to stop acting like dicks.)

Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#33
post #9

I'm semi seriously contemplating doing 2-4 weeks of work to get up to speed with a weird technology because if I did that I might find it easy to pitch myself to someone who isn't actively hiring. Probably not a smart move, but perhaps a very interesting move. Opportunities have costs. They also have benefits. One evaluates and decides. Shrug.

Voluntarily - it's awesome. I'm trying to code out of office as much as possible - doing toy projects or checking on interesting open-source code. The problem, from my point of view, is that they think it's acceptable to demand those hours without even talking to a real person, but rather as a trivial part of pre-evaluation. It's ugly.

Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#35
I had a completely different experience. I've been in contact with Facebook about potentially working there (Engineering Side) and I would describe my experience as pleasant, respectful, and interesting. I've learned a lot about how Facebook approaches problem solving in their environment, and I'm impressed. From an Engineering perspective, I'm equally impressed with their architecture and the solutions they've built. Not sure if the OP is asking for advice, but I'll give you some; If you want something in life, you have to go for it. Sometimes this means you have to sacrifice something and/or work a little harder. If you can't put in 10 hours for the opportunity to work there, what kind of contribution will you make to their organization? Will you take an initiative to find problems and solve them? Or will you complain about having to do things, and bring a negative attitude? I don't know the answer (and I'm not implying anything), but one can only imagine the picture you've painted with that response. I've been working 10 years to position myself for these types of opportunities. 10 hours is like a drop in the bucket.

Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#36

I had a completely different experience. I've been in contact with Facebook about potentially working there (Engineering Side) and I would describe my experience as pleasant, respectful, and interesting. I've learned a lot about how Facebook approaches problem solving in their environment, and I'm impressed. From an Engineering perspective, I'm equally impressed with their architecture and the solutions they've built…

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have heard a lot of good things about Facebook before - and my totally opposite experience was one of the reason for exaggerated reaction.

I agree that there are jobs where I would love to spend days, weeks and months of free coding and other efforts - all just to get them. But I have very different expectations of pre-interview process - when I saw it was 'do all this and mb we ll talk to you' thing.

Again - and I think post's update should explain it - what happened to me was an exception. I would just never expect to get such an exception from Facebook.

Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#37
post #7

In case you missed it somehow - we live in a society that abandoned slavery, feudalism and even factory sweatshops more than a few years ago. Facebook isn't requiring him to do this. They are asking him to if he wants to get further in the candidate process. Clearly a bad approach by the recruiter (perhaps a mistake?), but to liken this to slavery is a reach. Just withdrawal candidacy since you weren't very intereste…

If recruiters from the company well known for free hackers culture are doing this today - I would assume that less open companies could start free working month practices tomorrow.

It seems like it was a mistake and miscommunication. I could not expect Facebook to make such mistakes, but rather change policies. Thankfully I was wrong.

Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#38

This seems like a very childish response to me. Perhaps it would have been better to simply decline the offer and list your reasons, rather than berating the recruiter. As it currently appears, the argument is not even very clearly thought out. You just kind of yell at them about slavery and feudalism, which imho doesn't have any relation to the puzzle you were asked to solve. I agree that I wouldn't have done it, bu…

If it would be a real time interview - for sure. But after sending CV I just got that mail with task. Let me underline it - they never TALKED to me. They asked if I want to send them CV - and right after I got this. I don't have any problems with recruiter - I'm more than sure it could be a great person - but if the company gives her such a workflow - it's, from my point of view, is scary at the least.

Facebook is an odd company. When I applied they sent me a page of information about how all the people saying the work environment was bad are wrong. Oddly defensive and sensitive. I live in New Zealand not near SV was unaware of any bad press until they send me a page of defensive articles unprompted.

Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#39

This post comes off kind of douchey. Sympathies evaporated once you started mentioning slavery. Factory workers in South East Asia might have a slightly different opinion on what constitutes slavery. You could've had some fun with the challenge. E.g. Write a piece of code that draws a massive middle finger on the screen. That would've been a cooler response! Here's how I responded to a small company that was trying t…

That response is awesome!

Re: Facebook has just invited me to interview and now I’m pissed off

#40

I had a completely different experience. I've been in contact with Facebook about potentially working there (Engineering Side) and I would describe my experience as pleasant, respectful, and interesting. I've learned a lot about how Facebook approaches problem solving in their environment, and I'm impressed. From an Engineering perspective, I'm equally impressed with their architecture and the solutions they've built…

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have heard a lot of good things about Facebook before - and my totally opposite experience was one of the reason for exaggerated reaction. I agree that there are jobs where I would love to spend days, weeks and months of free coding and other efforts - all just to get them. But I have very different expectations of pre-interview process - when I saw it was 'do all this and mb we…

Understood. Hiring is a two way street, it needs to work for both sides. It's unfortunate how this turned out. But hey, everything happens for a reason right? Maybe it was not meant to be because something else awesome is right around the corner. If you are actively looking, I hope you find something that makes you happy! Take it easy.
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