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The 11% for IE11 challenge

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Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

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The blog and the 11% for IE11 landing page both imply that if you complete the challenge, you will win the prizes described. For instance, the blog entry says: "If you can get 11% better page load performance from your site, we'll send you and your team some 11 goodness." I'm no lawyer, but that sounds like a valid unilateral contract to me. Similarly, the landing page says: "Show us how you got 11% better page load…

What if the plan is to change the page after 11 orgs win?

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

#32
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Internet Explorer has been and continues to be hostile to the web. It easily makes my job as a web developer at least 50% more difficult which translates into costing my employer more money. As far as I'm concerned, we as developers need to make a concerted effort to force Microsoft to either adopt WebKit or release a version of IE that is 100% standards compliant.

Diversity of implementations on the web is vital for continued innovation. Though it's less important that IE stick with the Trident engine now that Blink and WebKit 2 have diverged, we should celebrate progress and encourage participation in the standards process - things IE has gotten a lot better about especially in the last two iterations. > has been and continues to be hostile to the web I'm going to have to dis…

> things IE has gotten a lot better

no it has not. IE9/IE10/IE11 dont even render the same page the same way , dont even get me started on CSS3 support.

You want things to get better ? let Microsoft drop the version number.and update its browsers automatically all the way back to IE8...

Oh , but why should they do that , they make money by making their os obsolete ... /sarcasm.

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

#34

"nearly 30% faster than the nearest competitive browser." - Micro$oft. Absolute crap as can be seen here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413632,00.asp I'm not loyal at all to any browser. I swop and change (used to use IE, then went to Opera, then Firefox and now to Chrome), but when I hear obvious lies such as IE is 30% faster than any other browser I all of a sudden want to permanently leave IE alone

Why do you think IE9 performance numbers indicate that claims about IE11 performance are lies?

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

#35

"nearly 30% faster than the nearest competitive browser." - Micro$oft. Absolute crap as can be seen here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413632,00.asp I'm not loyal at all to any browser. I swop and change (used to use IE, then went to Opera, then Firefox and now to Chrome), but when I hear obvious lies such as IE is 30% faster than any other browser I all of a sudden want to permanently leave IE alone

> I'm not loyal at all to any browser.

I don't see why you need to point that out. It's not saving your credibility after writing "Micro$oft" anyway.

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

#38
I noticed it was both obvious and trivial to add a web page to your home screen. Is that also the case on windows phones? Is it the case on any other phone? Or are webapps treated as second class citizens still on phones?

Re: The 11% for IE11 challenge

#39
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Internet Explorer has been and continues to be hostile to the web. It easily makes my job as a web developer at least 50% more difficult which translates into costing my employer more money. As far as I'm concerned, we as developers need to make a concerted effort to force Microsoft to either adopt WebKit or release a version of IE that is 100% standards compliant.

Diversity of implementations on the web is vital for continued innovation. Though it's less important that IE stick with the Trident engine now that Blink and WebKit 2 have diverged, we should celebrate progress and encourage participation in the standards process - things IE has gotten a lot better about especially in the last two iterations. > has been and continues to be hostile to the web I'm going to have to dis…

I agree that diversity of implementations is vital. However, Microsoft has continuously proven its inability to provide an implementation that can even remotely compete. I don't care if its WebKit, Blink, or Servo. But any one of those is better than what Microsoft has insisted on plaguing us with in Internet Explorer.

Now, with regards to IE11, you may be right. And I hope you are. I SINCERELY hope you are!

But with every subsequent release since IE7 I've heard people say something to the effect of, "Its so much better than [insert previous version of IE]" and they were right. Except that; a) the previous version was so beyond bad that fixing one bug would've been a marked improvement and b) the new version STILL paled in comparison to all the other browsers out there.

So if history is any indication, IE11 will be incrementally better but it will still make my job unnecessarily hard and it will still prove itself to be hostile to the web.

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