Coconut oil is perhaps the best with its anti oxidant and microbicide properties. More often than not, it is the lifestyle that causes health issues.
Saturated Fat is not the major issue
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Re: Saturated Fat is not the major issue
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
It benefited the wheat farmers and "Big Ag" so there was possibly political pressure to focus on this.
What about "Big Dairy" or "Big Meat", they got the short end of the stick from the push to high carb low fat diets. Industry lobbying as a theory lacks predictive power.
Perhaps their lobbyists aren't as convincing.
This is the second time I've encountered the phrase "lacks predictive power on HN tonight" by the way. Is a theory without predictive power now considered wrong?
Re: Saturated Fat is not the major issue
#33Good response to this article with, like, facts and that.. http://theconversation.com/its-not-even-debatable-saturated-...
Such a shame that the author apparently didn't read all of the linked "facts". eg. "This cause and effect is now beyond reasonable doubt; science shows ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8043072 ) that high levels of cholesterol cause arterial damage and this, in turn, causes coronary heart disease." The linked paper and the comments to that paper disputing the findings completely contradicts the author's "beyond r…
Excellent point. It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I find the anti-fat crowd to be chronically intellectually dishonest.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Although individuals did not consciously decide to replace fat with sugar in their diets, the reality is that this policy advisement lead food producers to reduce fat in their products and replace that fat with sugar -- so the practical result was indeed this. Most products that advertise low-fat have accomplished this with sugar. Sure, it didn't have to happen this way, but thats irrelevant because it did happen thi…
But I've seen no evidence that, that is what happened. There doesn't seem to be a logical reason as to why you'd need to increase sugar in order to lower cholesterol, so why would companies do that? Can you point to an example food(s) that had high fat, and low sugar, and then after this policy, low fat, and high sugar... ?
Maybe to make the food still tasty. Go to your local store - check all low-fat, 2%-enters, etc. and then full milk - check the sugar content percentage. That's all... At least here in US, Los Angeles - usually it's the normal yogurt/milk (e.g. hihg-fat) that has lower sugary content (percentage-wise) than the rest. Sometimes it's quite significantly lower.
And I don't know how the whole craze about non-plain yogurt came. I'm bulgarian native, and it's "foreign" to me that yogurt is mixed with any sugar at all.
It's still yummy - you can mix it equal portions with water, shake it well - and you get a very good drink. Or make this cold soup - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarator
Or just eat it like this. No need for sugar...
Re: Saturated Fat is not the major issue
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
But I've seen no evidence that, that is what happened. There doesn't seem to be a logical reason as to why you'd need to increase sugar in order to lower cholesterol, so why would companies do that? Can you point to an example food(s) that had high fat, and low sugar, and then after this policy, low fat, and high sugar... ?
Yogurt is one. I don't know about the previous sugar levels, but it is extremely difficult to find anything other than low or no fat yogurt, and they typically have what I consider to be very high sugar levels, even many brands of plain yogurt.
We've had good luck with Brown Cow, if you can find that in your market. However, it still pales in comparison to the full-fat yogurts you get in Europe.
Re: Saturated Fat is not the major issue
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Although individuals did not consciously decide to replace fat with sugar in their diets, the reality is that this policy advisement lead food producers to reduce fat in their products and replace that fat with sugar -- so the practical result was indeed this. Most products that advertise low-fat have accomplished this with sugar. Sure, it didn't have to happen this way, but thats irrelevant because it did happen thi…
But I've seen no evidence that, that is what happened. There doesn't seem to be a logical reason as to why you'd need to increase sugar in order to lower cholesterol, so why would companies do that? Can you point to an example food(s) that had high fat, and low sugar, and then after this policy, low fat, and high sugar... ?
...so why would companies do that?
Because flavor. It turns out that when you remove fat from a foodstuff, it tends not to taste nearly as good.
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#37There have been a lot of people saying this for quite awhile. Malcolm Kendrick wrote an entire book about the poor science behind our current belief that cholesterol causes heart disease. There are many others. But in the current medical environment where doctors want to prescribe a pill to fix everything and the biogen companies have enormous influence over public policy, dissent never rises above the level of a whi…
Those with higher cholesterol have a higher percentage of heart attacks. Doctors (in Australia at least) prescribe when your risk (calculated on your cholesterol, smoking, stress, exercise, etc) is lowered by reducing your cholesterol, and dietary restriction hasn't worked (i.e. your liver just isn't as good as it used to be). Is that not how its done in the U.S?
It's the HDL/Cholesterol and triglyceride/HDL ratios that predict risk. Check it out.
Re: Saturated Fat is not the major issue
#38A related pet peeve: It's becoming difficult to find products with "all" the fat (vs "low/reduced" fat). Prime example for me: chocolate milk. It's pretty rare nowadays that I ever see anything over 1% milk used in it -- and of course the label touts the low fat formulation, but doesn't mention there's more sugar pumped in it than a can of soda. Even if this was healthier than full-fat/less sugar chocolate milk, I'd…
I can let you have the recipe for chocolate milk.
Re: Saturated Fat is not the major issue
#39The current post links to the BMJ press release on this topic. These links are to the full article:
Re: Saturated Fat is not the major issue
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Although individuals did not consciously decide to replace fat with sugar in their diets, the reality is that this policy advisement lead food producers to reduce fat in their products and replace that fat with sugar -- so the practical result was indeed this. Most products that advertise low-fat have accomplished this with sugar. Sure, it didn't have to happen this way, but thats irrelevant because it did happen thi…
But I've seen no evidence that, that is what happened. There doesn't seem to be a logical reason as to why you'd need to increase sugar in order to lower cholesterol, so why would companies do that? Can you point to an example food(s) that had high fat, and low sugar, and then after this policy, low fat, and high sugar... ?
Read the ingredients list for a simple salad dressing: basically oil, vinegar, seasonings. Now look a the "lite" version of the same dressing: oil is replaced with high fructose corn syrup, thickeners (probably starches), etc.