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The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Re: The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Post by freehunter »

malkia wrote: post #25
freehunter wrote: post #9

Stupidity? Stupidity is people making criticisms without actually using the product they're criticizing. >Treat the Metro UI and desktop as different modes and encourage developers to build applications that work on both. When you’re interacting with windows from a tablet switch into metro mode. When you’re using windows from a desktop with a mouse switch into desktop mode. This happens today. It's called... Windows…

I wrote this as reply in the blog, but asking you - is this fixed in 8.1: "Most confusing to me, was mouse-wheeling up and down the Weather app, which in turn did left right scrolling, but if it ever hovered over a listview with more elements to display it overtook the left right scrolling and started up down scrolling... This really felt weird... Very very very wrong!"

I don't use the weather app with any computer that has a mouse attached, so I am not sure if this has been corrected or not. I understand their decision to design the system this way, but I can also understand your frustration when it's not working the way you expect it to work.

Re: The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Post by freehunter »

phr4ts wrote: post #29
phr4ts wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 8..n can be bad and good. It's awful when used on old hardware - just like vista. It's sweet when ur using hardware that supports it fully. 1. Gesture aware trackpad 2. Touch screen These are very important, without them, windows 8 will hell. i've been there, hated it until I got gesture sensitive mouse. I'm sure touch screen will do wonders.

phr4ts what's the down-vote for? Conduct a poll and u'll see that alot of those who dislike win 8 the most are on old hardware.

You could be getting downvotes for your grammar, which makes your point hard to understand. You do make a valid point that Windows 8 is better on hardware that was designed for the new input methods.

Re: The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

brudgers wrote: post #14

What Windows 8 [and Windows Phone] do really well, is keep shit from piling up. By making the icons big, there's less room to save another icon to the desktop/home_screen. And applications don't get to place stuff there by default. Having run Windows Phone for two years, and my new Android phone for less than a month, the Android homescreen is already more disordered than the Windows device - and despite my more acti…

So make the icons bigger and call it a day. In fact Gnome (at least used to) allow you to make icons as big or as small as you want. Want that project you are working on to remind you to click it and not something else? Make it take up half the screen!

Re: The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Post by rlu »

daigoba66 wrote: post #19

Okay. So I've been using Windows 8 nearly every working day for the past year. I'm a programmer, multi-monitor user, and a "power-user". And how do I use Windows 8? Pretty much exactly as I used Windows 7. I've never used a "metro" app outside of playing with a few on day one. The learning curve was insignificant given my many years of experience using all sorts of different computers and operating systems. So am I l…

As a multi monitor user doesn't Win8 provide a much better experience over Win7? Not saying this alone is worth an upgrade, but IIRC it's definitely better in a "would make you more productive" way

Re: The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Post by rlu »

The real vision though for Windows I think is probably summarized with Surface Pro + Surface dock.

I'm way too tired to explain why Windows 8 is a good idea - in the long run. But if you browse through my comment history I think I've explained it a few times. Probably from ~1 year ago

Re: The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Post by daigoba66 »

rlu wrote: post #36
daigoba66 wrote: post #19

Okay. So I've been using Windows 8 nearly every working day for the past year. I'm a programmer, multi-monitor user, and a "power-user". And how do I use Windows 8? Pretty much exactly as I used Windows 7. I've never used a "metro" app outside of playing with a few on day one. The learning curve was insignificant given my many years of experience using all sorts of different computers and operating systems. So am I l…

As a multi monitor user doesn't Win8 provide a much better experience over Win7? Not saying this alone is worth an upgrade, but IIRC it's definitely better in a "would make you more productive" way

Not really. There are features like having the taskbar visible on all screens, if you enable it. There are very minor improvements such as a 4px vertical "line" in each corner which helps you move the mouse to a corner adjacent to another screen without accidentally overshooting. But nothing major in my experience.

Re: The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Post by flipchart »

rlu wrote: post #36
daigoba66 wrote: post #19

Okay. So I've been using Windows 8 nearly every working day for the past year. I'm a programmer, multi-monitor user, and a "power-user". And how do I use Windows 8? Pretty much exactly as I used Windows 7. I've never used a "metro" app outside of playing with a few on day one. The learning curve was insignificant given my many years of experience using all sorts of different computers and operating systems. So am I l…

As a multi monitor user doesn't Win8 provide a much better experience over Win7? Not saying this alone is worth an upgrade, but IIRC it's definitely better in a "would make you more productive" way

One great feature of it is that it puts a start bar on every monitor (not just your primary monitor) which makes switching between programs much easier. For some reason though they decided not to put the task area (which has the clock, etc.) on each start bar though, only the primary monitor.

Re: The Stupidity of Windows 8 in a Nutshell

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Post by phr4ts »

freehunter wrote: post #33
phr4ts wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

phr4ts what's the down-vote for? Conduct a poll and u'll see that alot of those who dislike win 8 the most are on old hardware.

You could be getting downvotes for your grammar, which makes your point hard to understand. You do make a valid point that Windows 8 is better on hardware that was designed for the new input methods.

ha ha ha ha ha. Down-votes for grammar. Some trigger happy bastard that could be policing anti-microsoft comments.

Since there's nothing anti-Microsoft here, he's deciding to check grammar. Lovely! Downvote this one too.

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