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Re: Are you thinking, or are you farting?

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Post by kirse » Wed, Jun 10, 2009, 10:08 PM UTC

ahoyhere wrote: post #28

kirse wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

-- Haven't you ever come out of a situation and, at the end, when it was all said and done, realized that you had talked/fooled yourself into it? No. Before I ever enter a situation I already know whether or not I need to convince myself. I'm pretty aware of my own intuition, and the more I need to "talk myself" into doing something the more I'll question myself before I skip over my gut instinct. It's been extremely…

I didn't say you could avoid making ALL mistakes. You can avoid certain mistakes. > On the other hand, I've had many times where I overrode my intuition and thought "damn, should have trusted myself" That's exactly what I'm talking about. :) > This is the big fallacy of questioning your every thought and intention. I never said question every thought. I also never said that the goal in life is to avoid making all mis…

-- That's exactly what I'm talking about. :)

Ok, I agree with you on that piece. I still disagree that self-congratulatory thoughts need constant analysis for something as simple as enjoying some milk.

-- Why do you think that is?

What a great example of how, yet again, you're thinking too deeply here... as if I had some underlying internal motive for ignoring your one example.

I didn't address it because I ran out of time and was headed out to lunch with friends. So I mashed the reply button and figured I addressed as much as I could.

Re: Are you thinking, or are you farting?

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Post by ahoyhere » Thu, Jun 11, 2009, 10:42 AM UTC

CodeMage wrote: post #30

ahoyhere wrote: post #29

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The "You" that is doing the analyzing can obviously learn and grow... otherwise, what's the point of doing anything? And, if you read the original article, you'll see it's not about "catching problems" at all.

See, that kind of hostile attitude is what usually turns people away from any advice you might offer. Your assumption that I haven't read the article -- because my wording of my interpretation of it differs from what you expect -- is unwarranted. The article itself was rather interesting and I certainly didn't mean to imply that metacognition is useless. From my point of view, not engaging in any metacognition ever w…

I didn't intend to sound hostile. I think we're talking past each other here :)

Also, I agree with you 100% on mental masturbation. (I also blog occasionally @ http://www.justfuckingship.com/). But I am tired of every freakin web app looking, acting, and being essentially the same.

We also define problems differently. I think it's a bigger issue that all web app are basically the same, than if a given individual sits and thinks too hard and never does anything. But that's because I have barely any problems with executing any more... because I've worked on it.

Have you heard of the categorization of failures?

Failure Level 1 - Doing the right thing, but doing it badly.

Failure Level 2 - Doing the wrong thing, whether you do it well or badly.

I mostly like to poke people about Level 2. No blog/article/motivational speaker/whatever can do everything so I pick my battles :)

Re: Are you thinking, or are you farting?

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Post by ahoyhere » Thu, Jun 11, 2009, 10:44 AM UTC

kirse wrote: post #31

ahoyhere wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't say you could avoid making ALL mistakes. You can avoid certain mistakes. > On the other hand, I've had many times where I overrode my intuition and thought "damn, should have trusted myself" That's exactly what I'm talking about. :) > This is the big fallacy of questioning your every thought and intention. I never said question every thought. I also never said that the goal in life is to avoid making all mis…

-- That's exactly what I'm talking about. :) Ok, I agree with you on that piece. I still disagree that self-congratulatory thoughts need constant analysis for something as simple as enjoying some milk. -- Why do you think that is? What a great example of how, yet again, you're thinking too deeply here... as if I had some underlying internal motive for ignoring your one example. I didn't address it because I ran out o…

Or maybe I'm just trying to keep the conversation going, and don't actually mean everything I write.

You never know. ;)