Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy • Hacker News Board

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#31

Post by corin_ » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 12:04 AM UTC

indlebe wrote: post #27

MichaelGG wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of high-level professionals use opiates (pills like Oxycontin). Look around for some rather tiny pupils on people doing high-stress, high-paying jobs. Opium tends to make you lay around and usually need to vomit, so I'm not sure why that'd be preferable to [semi]synthetic opiates.

>Plenty of high-level professionals use opiates (pills like Oxycontin) Perhaps, but I still question the likeliness that the mainstream pot dealer would move to selling pills still distributing from the same source. Pot, cocaine, mdmda, etc are available in bulk from illicit sources. Prescription pills usually come from a legal source at some point and come in smaller quantities. From what I hear opium is more expens…

Again purely anecdotal from my own small sample, but I've known people taking prescription pills illegally by buying through a dealer, haven't known anyone keeping their habit going based on legitimate doctor prescriptions. Have also known dealers who had pills available - though in what quantity and from what sources I've no idea.

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#32

Post by gwern » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 12:42 AM UTC

concerto wrote: post #23

The sales incentives make no sense. He made 1/3rd commission on the smallest bags, 1/5th on the medium and 1/6 on the largest bags. It is better for him to sell lots of small bags than 1 big one. In addition, assuming most customers buy the small bag, then upselling to a medium bag would bring no extra financial reward. Putting aside the idea that buying the biggest bag might lead to faster consumption, and assuming…

It makes sense to me. Each sale of a bag takes time. It's no good getting a higher percentage of a small bag if he has to run around for an hour to sell 1 small bag and could've sold 1 large bag in that hour instead.

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#33

Post by dobbsbob » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 2:15 AM UTC

MichaelGG wrote: post #6

>Like most addicts in denial, potheads live under the bogus assumption that every bong hit will be their last. Uh, what? While there may be some people that have hit problems and want to change because their life is being negatively impacted, most "addicts" are quite fine where they are. I personally don't like pot, but I've never known any pothead to keep saying "this will be my last hit" - quite the opposite. Like…

I laughed out loud when I read that idiotic part about "this will be my last hit" too.

I do like John McAfee's take on chronic weed use though: “Marijuana is the drug of illusion. It creates the the illusion that you’re thinking great thoughts and doing great things while you’re sitting on the sofa and growing a beard.”

Anyways, if this guy was delivering Oxy he's lucky he is still alive. Oxy drivers are almost always jacked where I live. All the major crew members here are addicted to it because it calms them from being paranoid since they are all marked for death by each other and constantly looking over their shoulder. Gangster anxiety is best explained in the classic song My Mind Playing Tricks On Me by the Geto Boys.

Kind of strange this guy didn't mention any anxiety of being busted or having a gun shoved in his face. He just slammed all his customers leading me to believe he didn't actually deliver drugs. If you don't wake up in the middle of the night panicking after dreaming of your door getting kicked in or don't think that everybody on the street is following you then you aren't in the game.

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#34

Post by concerto » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 4:13 AM UTC

gwern wrote: post #32

concerto wrote: post #23

The sales incentives make no sense. He made 1/3rd commission on the smallest bags, 1/5th on the medium and 1/6 on the largest bags. It is better for him to sell lots of small bags than 1 big one. In addition, assuming most customers buy the small bag, then upselling to a medium bag would bring no extra financial reward. Putting aside the idea that buying the biggest bag might lead to faster consumption, and assuming…

It makes sense to me. Each sale of a bag takes time. It's no good getting a higher percentage of a small bag if he has to run around for an hour to sell 1 small bag and could've sold 1 large bag in that hour instead.

If the majority of users take the small bag, which seems logical, then I can't imagine you would be able to upsell them easily to a product that was 5x the price (indeed the author acknowledges that), the upsell opportunity there would be to a medium bag, but as there is no difference to him financially in the sale of a small or medium bag, what is his incentive?

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#35

Post by gaadd33 » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 4:32 AM UTC

dobbsbob wrote: post #33

MichaelGG wrote: post #6

>Like most addicts in denial, potheads live under the bogus assumption that every bong hit will be their last. Uh, what? While there may be some people that have hit problems and want to change because their life is being negatively impacted, most "addicts" are quite fine where they are. I personally don't like pot, but I've never known any pothead to keep saying "this will be my last hit" - quite the opposite. Like…

I laughed out loud when I read that idiotic part about "this will be my last hit" too. I do like John McAfee's take on chronic weed use though: “Marijuana is the drug of illusion. It creates the the illusion that you’re thinking great thoughts and doing great things while you’re sitting on the sofa and growing a beard.” Anyways, if this guy was delivering Oxy he's lucky he is still alive. Oxy drivers are almost alway…

I wouldn't think think low level delivery guys in Manhattan have that much to worry about. The types of customers he presumably was delivering to aren't the types to go buy an illegal handgun somewhere and then mug a delivery guy for $1K in drugs given they obviously make several times that in their job.

As far as being busted goes, if he's taking cabs/walking everywhere and its in say Midtown Manhattan and he's dressed like any other 20 something with a laptop bag, its unlikely he'll be randomly stopped and frisked.

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#36

Post by dobbsbob » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 5:04 AM UTC

gaadd33 wrote: post #35

dobbsbob wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I laughed out loud when I read that idiotic part about "this will be my last hit" too. I do like John McAfee's take on chronic weed use though: “Marijuana is the drug of illusion. It creates the the illusion that you’re thinking great thoughts and doing great things while you’re sitting on the sofa and growing a beard.” Anyways, if this guy was delivering Oxy he's lucky he is still alive. Oxy drivers are almost alway…

I wouldn't think think low level delivery guys in Manhattan have that much to worry about. The types of customers he presumably was delivering to aren't the types to go buy an illegal handgun somewhere and then mug a delivery guy for $1K in drugs given they obviously make several times that in their job. As far as being busted goes, if he's taking cabs/walking everywhere and its in say Midtown Manhattan and he's dres…

True, but other crews pay for intel on competitor delivery driver operations because that's their ATM machine: robbing and taxing weak criminals. Especially the pill customers, it's likely they have other delivery drivers since they are addicts and wouldn't think twice about dropping a dime on this guy for some free Oxy. The other crew then sticks a gun in his face, and demands to know where the boss keeps the safe house and it's all downhill from there. I guess his 'boss' paid taxes to avoid this.

I learned all this from an unfortunate but informative stint in jail for a minor computer tresspassing charge. Guy's in there close to release form new crews and when they get out the first thing they do is rob a delivery driver to start their new business. They approach existing org crime outfits and receive loans, guns and vehicles to go conquer and tax new territory.

Here's a timely article about exactly what we are talking about: http://blogs.vancouversun.com/2013/10/04/corey-lal-took-over...

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#37

Post by shocks » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 5:12 AM UTC

pstuart wrote: post #26

shocks wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does w/ mean?

with

Oh, okay. I genuinely thought it meant 'without'. Thanks for clearing up the confusion.

(I wonder if it was really worth trying to save those two letters?)

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#38

Post by dilap » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 5:26 AM UTC

shocks wrote: post #37

pstuart wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

with

Oh, okay. I genuinely thought it meant 'without'. Thanks for clearing up the confusion. (I wonder if it was really worth trying to save those two letters?)

It's more a stylistic thing / linguistic tic than about the savings in characters. Without would be "w/o". Like, "I'm going to the dance, w/ or w/o you."

Or imagine an album titled "W/ or w/o you". Has a nice look to it. Also, check out the Google results for "w/ or w/o you". Impressive expansion on the part of Google.

(Edit: I originally said it saved three letters, but of course, that was me forgetting to count / as a letter. :)

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#39

Post by Andrenid » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 6:58 AM UTC

eruditely wrote: post #30

This piece is laughable if you've ever used drugs, sold drugs, or know your way around anywhere. Oh man the article writers delusion.

Looks to me more like someone sold a few bags of weed to friends and got lost in his delusions of being a runner, and made the rest up to try impress people.

Re: Confessions of a Drug Dealer's Delivery Service Guy

#40

Post by toadi » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 8:58 AM UTC

dobbsbob wrote: post #33

MichaelGG wrote: post #6

>Like most addicts in denial, potheads live under the bogus assumption that every bong hit will be their last. Uh, what? While there may be some people that have hit problems and want to change because their life is being negatively impacted, most "addicts" are quite fine where they are. I personally don't like pot, but I've never known any pothead to keep saying "this will be my last hit" - quite the opposite. Like…

I laughed out loud when I read that idiotic part about "this will be my last hit" too. I do like John McAfee's take on chronic weed use though: “Marijuana is the drug of illusion. It creates the the illusion that you’re thinking great thoughts and doing great things while you’re sitting on the sofa and growing a beard.” Anyways, if this guy was delivering Oxy he's lucky he is still alive. Oxy drivers are almost alway…

Never thought someone would mention Geto Boys on HN. besides my commodores and other computer related paraphernalia brings back youth memories.